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  • #16
    Re: Technology bubble ten years later: The money’s not back

    EJ: The good news is that if you are a Biotech, Medical Devices and Equipment, Electronics/Instrumentation, or Energy – who could have known? – start-up company, 50% of the funds invested in 2010 are going into your industries.
    That comment hit home. Historically we've always invested a percentage of our wealth in start-ups. As a basket of investments, they have been very good performers for us long-term, as we typically take an active role in coaching & governance.

    4 months ago - we decided to double our VC/Seed Stage funding - which was a major decision. Last week we just completed a nice deal with a company who has a great product & patent in the Biotech/Medical Devices sector. The deal before that - was in Energy. We are still looking at several more - and they are almost all in the sectors you identified above.

    Personally, I feel more comfortable taking educated bets in assisting others with their sweat equity, than I do with most of the other "financial product" alternatives out there.

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    • #17
      Re: Technology bubble ten years later: The money’s not back

      Paul Graham on the future of Startup Funding:

      "Two years ago I wrote about what I called "a huge, unexploited opportunity in startup funding:" the growing disconnect between VCs, whose current business model requires them to invest large amounts, and a large class of startups that need less than they used to. Increasingly, startups want a couple hundred thousand dollars, not a couple million. [1]

      The opportunity is a lot less unexploited now. Investors have poured into this territory from both directions. VCs are much more likely to make angel-sized investments than they were a year ago. And meanwhile the past year has seen a dramatic increase in a new type of investor: the super-angel, who operates like an angel, but using other people's money, like a VC.

      Though a lot of investors are entering this territory, there is still room for more. The distribution of investors should mirror the distribution of startups, which has the usual power law dropoff. So there should be a lot more people investing tens or hundreds of thousands than millions."

      The rest at

      http://www.paulgraham.com/future.html

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      • #18
        Re: Technology bubble ten years later: The money’s not back

        Originally posted by EricPhan View Post
        Paul Graham on the future of Startup Funding:

        "Two years ago I wrote about what I called "a huge, unexploited opportunity in startup funding:" the growing disconnect between VCs, whose current business model requires them to invest large amounts, and a large class of startups that need less than they used to. Increasingly, startups want a couple hundred thousand dollars, not a couple million. [1]

        The opportunity is a lot less unexploited now. Investors have poured into this territory from both directions. VCs are much more likely to make angel-sized investments than they were a year ago. And meanwhile the past year has seen a dramatic increase in a new type of investor: the super-angel, who operates like an angel, but using other people's money, like a VC.

        Though a lot of investors are entering this territory, there is still room for more. The distribution of investors should mirror the distribution of startups, which has the usual power law dropoff. So there should be a lot more people investing tens or hundreds of thousands than millions."

        The rest at

        http://www.paulgraham.com/future.html
        Paul was early if he was investing two years ago. Many of the companies that were funded in 2008 ran out of money during the recession and either went out of business or are now being re-capitalized at a lower valuation. I waited until this year and recently made two early stage start-up investments after doing due diligence on dozens.

        The data confirm my experience: very, very few capital intensive companies are getting financed. A Series A or B equipment deal is virtually unheard of. When is the last time a new semiconductor company got funded? The question this raises for me: Can our economy grow on a foundation of low capex medical device, and Internet and IT services companies? What happens to U.S. technology leadership five to ten years from now in those markets that are not receiving funding? One area I'm bullish on is companies that are commercializing technologies that reduce energy consumption.

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        • #19
          Re: Technology bubble ten years later: The money’s not back

          We are still looking for funding in the pharma space - We have been told confidentially by people who should know, that most VCs are in disarray.

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          • #20
            Re: Technology bubble ten years later: The money’s not back

            Certainly brought it back to me, seeing the figures. We set out to create a Video-911 service 2001 and had to walk away early 2003, so this thread posits that my decision to sit it out has been vindicated. Not that that brings a smile.

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            • #21
              Re: Technology bubble ten years later: The money’s not back

              Originally posted by EJ View Post
              One area I'm bullish on is companies that are commercializing technologies that reduce energy consumption.
              Got your REC's and WC's ?
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewab...y_Certificates
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_certificates

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              • #22
                Re: Technology bubble ten years later: The money’s not back

                But, but, but, weren't all of Bush's tax giveaways to the top 10% going to create a boom in small businesses and startups? Wasn't that what we were told?

                Oh, I forgot, those tax cuts did create a start-up boom. Unfortunately, it occurred in India and China. Well, that and a bond-market bubble.

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                • #23
                  Re: Technology bubble ten years later: The money’s not back

                  Originally posted by EJ View Post
                  [Five years later it still isn’t.

                  Today Thomson Reuters published its PricewaterhouseCoopers/National Venture Capital Association MoneyTree™ Report and Data.

                  Investment by Development Stage

                  First the good news. In 2010, investment in pre-product or “seed stage” start-up technology companies is on track to return to 70% of 2000 levels and above 1999 levels.
                  Definitions
                  • Venture Capital - Money supplied by individuals or institutions to finance the losses of innovative new companies
                  • Seed Stage - Pre-product, pre-revenue
                  • Early Stage - Product but pre-revenue or minimal revenue
                  • Expansion Stage - Product and some revenue growth track record
                  • Late Stage - Rapid revenue growth but pre-profit





                  The bad news is that this growth reflects the desire by angel investors to avoid deals that require follow-on financing by venture capital firms. After two economic crashes in ten years that produced cram-down follow-on financings that reduced seed stage investors’ ownership in a company by as much as 95% in some cases, the chickens are no longer keen to dance with elephants. That means few capital-intensive start-ups are starting up. Further bad news is that Early Stage and Expansion Stage financing remains at 47% and 32% of 2000 levels respectively. Early Stage and Expansion Stage financing is finally back to levels first reached 11 years ago in 1999. Late stage start-ups are attracting twice as much capital in 2010 as in 1999, reflecting a tendency of VC investors to harvest investments made in the early 2000s rather than invest in newer and more risky ventures.

                  Capital-intensive start-ups are still finding it tough to locate the financing they need to get to the next stage of development, depending on the industry segment they occupy.

                  Investment by Industry

                  The good news is that if you are a Biotech, Medical Devices and Equipment, Electronics/Instrumentation, or Energy – who could have known? – start-up company, 50% of the funds invested in 2010 are going into your industries.
                  This does not help technology development in USA.
                  Arnold Schwarzenegger promotes Russia.

                  http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/...ads-to-russia/




                • October 5, 2010, 10:31 AM ETThe Daily Start-Up: Second VC Delegation Heads To Russia

                  A delegation of U.S. venture capitalists heads to Russia this week, the second such trip this year, to explore potential investment and technology collaborations, VentureWire reports. California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger might also accompany the group. The trip will give investors a chance to see how their companies might benefit from the $10 billion that state-owned Russian Corporation of Nanotechnologies, or Rusnano, a sponsor of the trip, has committed to backing new technologies. Although Russian technology is attractive, the country has big political risks as Israel’s Tamir Fishman Group discovered a few years ago.
                http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=130485332
                Schwarzenegger Leads Trade Mission To Russia

                by The Associated Press





                Associated Press California's Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger speaks during a meeting with businessmen in Moscow, Russia, Monday, Oct. 11, 2010. Schwarzenegger is leading a delegation of Silicon Valley business leaders and venture capitalists on a trip intended to help connect them with Russian counterparts.














                MOSCOW October 11, 2010, 09:13 am ET
                California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger praised Russia on Monday as a "gold mine" for foreign investors, during a trade mission intended to help expansion of Silicon Valley companies.
                Schwarzenegger has taken a delegation of Silicon Valley business leaders and venture capitalists in his tow to help them establish connections in Russia, which is trying to create its own technological hub.
                Schwarzenegger praised Russian President Dmitry Medvedev as "one of those great visionaries" and hailed Russia's investment opportunities.
                The Russian president visited Silicon Valley in June and has launched the nation's version of it in Moscow's suburb of Skolkovo.
                "The potential for growth is so extraordinary, it's like looking at a gold mine," said Schwarzenegger, who is to tour Skolkovo with Medvedev later Monday. "All you've got to do is to go in there and get it."
                Analysts have been more skeptical about Skolkovo, warning that Russia needs to offer more transparent rules for business and to reform its corruption-tainted judicial system to attract more foreign investment.
                Schwarzenegger didn't address any of these concerns during a breakfast with U.S. businessmen, putting emphasis instead on Russia's vast potential.
                "The Russian people are extraordinary, and it comes to ingenuity and technology and sciences," he said. "So with those minds and our minds put together, one and one becomes three, magical things. California is a state that has a lot to offer."
                Officials from Internet search engine Google Inc., software-makers Oracle Corp. and Microsoft Corp., biotechnology company Amgen Inc., and fuel-cell technology startup Bloom Energy are among those accompanying Schwarzenegger on his trip.
                "In the 21st century to assume that innovation will happen in one small spot only isn't such a great idea, but you can have that spot as a catalyst for action and networking out to the rest of Russia, not just here in Moscow," said Craig Barrett, former chief executive of Intel.
                Viktor Vekselberg, a Russian energy and metals tycoon whom the Kremlin put in charge of the Skolkovo project, said Monday that it will need 180-200 billion rubles ($6-6.7 billion) over the next five years, half of it provided by the state and the rest coming from the private sector. "This project will only be successful if hundreds of independent companies join in," he said.
                Schwarzenegger faced criticism for his weeklong trade mission last month to China, Japan and South Korea, which came in the midst of a months-long deadlock over solutions to address California's $19 billion shortfall.
                Schwarzenegger signed a new budget into law Friday after it passed both houses of the state legislature. It came 100 days into the start of the fiscal year.
                "I'm very happy that the Democrats and Republicans came together finally to approve the budget so I could come on this trade mission," Schwarzenegger told Medvedev, who congratulated him on passing the budget during their meeting at the Russian president's suburban residence.
                Medvedev then drove Schwarzenegger to Skolkovo in his vintage car: a Soviet-made, cream-colored Chaika designed in the 1950s.
                Speaking at a meeting with U.S. businessmen, Medvedev acknowledged that corruption poses a major challenge.
                "In our country, corruption isn't seen as something shameful, it's part of everyday life," he said, adding that the government is working on a set of moves to step up the fight against graft.
                Schwarzenegger said he was thrilled to be back in Moscow, which he visited while starring as a Soviet police officer in the 1988 movie "Red Heat."
                "I never thought at that point that I would be back as governor," Schwarzenegger said. "It's really fun to be back here and meet the president."

                http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-1...investors.html
                “I love places where there is an extraordinary potential,” Schwarzenegger, 63, told members of the American Chamber of Commerce in Russia today in Moscow. “It’s almost like looking at a gold or diamond mine and saying: all you got to do is go in there and get it.”
                Medvedev, who succeeded current Prime Minister Vladimir Putin in 2008, has called for an end to Russia’s dependence on natural resources and the creation of a knowledge-based economy that can compete globally. Schwarzenegger, who is accompanied by representatives of 28 California companies, will visit Skolkovo, the Moscow suburb Medvedev plans to turn into Russia’s version of Silicon Valley.
                “It’s perfect timing for Putin to be prime minister and Medvedev to be president,” Schwarzenegger said. “This is the ideal time, when things are still at a raw level.”
                Last edited by bill; October 11, 2010, 08:52 AM.

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                • #24
                  Re: Technology bubble ten years later: The money’s not back

                  Schwarzenegger has assumed that as there are expectations the Skolkovo facility will not be able to attract the required levels of investment; he can do California a good turn by attracting some of the Russian innovators to Silicon Valley. In turn, VC's from Silicon Valley will be trying to get a foothold inside Russia to be able to set off another wave of Mergers and Acquisition, (M&A).

                  Perhaps Russia should look at why the US venture capital economy is NOT investing in such ventures within the US, (let alone the rest of the Western economy), and ask themselves if there is any flaw in the process that might be overcome by new thinking such as The Capital Spillway Trust? http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...overy?p=174658

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                  • #25
                    Re: Technology bubble ten years later: The money’s not back

                    Speaking at a meeting with U.S. businessmen, Medvedev acknowledged that corruption poses a major challenge.
                    "In our country, corruption isn't seen as something shameful, it's part of everyday life," he said, adding that the government is working on a set of moves to step up the fight against graft.
                    Schwarzenegger said he was thrilled to be back in Moscow,
                    Just another business day in Russia.

                    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...russian-police
                    Alexander Lebedev 'holding negotiations' with Russian police

                    Masked police raid bank of Russian media tycoon, who is reportedly 'upset by the circus'Masked men this morning raided the bank in Moscow belonging to the Independent and Evening Standard owner Alexander Lebedev, with his aides saying that he is now "holding negotiations" with Russian police.
                    Artyom Artyomov, the Russian media tycoon's spokesman, said between 20 and 30 armed police arrived unannounced at Lebedev's National Reserve Corporation bank in central Moscow shortly before midday Moscow time (9am British time). Lebedev is currently inside the bank.
                    Two men with black masks and short, Uzi-like automatic weapons stood guard outside the main entrance. About 20 Russian journalists were waiting outside, filming the unfolding drama from across the car park. Three black Mercedes saloons were parked in front of the bank, an 11-storey modern building with green tinted windows.
                    Artyomov said police were carrying out a search at the bank's headquarters and its second branch in Moscow. "They are confiscating documents in both places," he confirmed. The aide said Lebedev was unhappy about the ostentatious nature of the raid, and the use of masked men carrying serious guns. "What really upsets us is this 'masky' show. We thought that things like this were a thing of the past. Armed policemen just burst into the building."
                    The aide said that the Independent and Evening Standard owner was "very surprised" at the search, and was still inside. "He doesn't understand why there is a need to create such a circus. We don't know yet what they want from us."
                    Today's raid came after Novaya Gazeta - the liberal opposition newspaper owned by Lebedev - published an exclusive four-page interview with the jailed oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovksy.
                    A large group of Moscow police left the building at 13.30 local time today, driving off in a blue minibus. It is not clear whether investigators have finished their search or are still working upstairs.
                    Artyomov initially said that he feared Lebedev "may be arrested" but later clarified that the Russian billionaire had not been arrested and was holding talks with police. "He isn't arrested. They [the police] have something they want to do in our bank. We have people with masks and guns here," he told the Guardian, adding: "They want some background information and are presently carrying out a search.
                    He said that the raid took place after Lebedev went to work this morning for several business meetings. The bank - founded by Lebedev in the early 1990s - is the most important part of his business empire and provides much of the money with which he funds his British media titles.
                    He also said that Lebedev's only enemy in Russia was Yuri Luzhkov, Moscow's veteran ex-mayor who was dramatically sacked last month. Lebedev had been an outspoken critic of Luzhkov and ran against him unsuccessfully in Moscow's 2003 mayoral elections. Luzhkov, however, has his own problems after falling out spectacularly with the Kremlin. He is unlikely to be behind today's events.
                    "Mr Lebedev's only real enemy is Yuri Luzhkov. We would be surprised if Luzhkov had organised this. He is no longer in his post," Artyomov pointed out.
                    Russia's news agency Interfax also reported today's dramatic raid on the Moscow headquarters of Lebedev's bank.
                    "Several armed men wearing masks have entered the building at 10A on 60 Let Oktyabrya Avenue in southwestern Moscow, where the Rosnano corporation and the National Reserve Bank are headquartered. There is one entrance in the building and we do not know yet what this action is about," Artyomov told Interfax.
                    Law enforcement services have not been available for comment and official confirmation of this report has not yet been obtained, Interfax said.
                    Rosnano
                    http://www.prime-tass.com/news/show....id=0&id=488557
                    MOSCOW, Nov 1 (PRIME-TASS) -- A number of the world’s leading nanotechnology companies may sign deals within two months to build plants in Russia, Anatoly Chubais, CEO of state-owned nanotechnology company Rusnano, said Monday, ITAR-TASS reported.
                    In particular, a Boston-based laser equipment producer is expected to sign such a deal on Tuesday, he said without specifying its name.
                    http://www.azonano.com/news.asp?newsID=20103

                    Projects identified for discussion during the October 11–14 visit have budgets totaling one billion dollars.
                    This is the second recent visit of high-profile American technological entrepreneurs to Russia. The first visit with representatives of RUSNANO occurred in May 2010. As a result, seven investment projects are in preliminary stages of expert evaluations at RUSNANO today. They include projects in solar energy, microelectronics, medicine, and biotechnology. Forecasted size of investment in these projects, excluding financing from RUSNANO, is $375 million. RUSNANO is also analyzing 200 portfolio company-delegates of the May visit for compatible interests and possible cofinancing.
                    “These were substantive and encouraging meetings,” said RUSNANO CEO Anatoly Chubais. “We looked at several types of collaboration. Project companies of American investors could be interested in developing business in Russia for which we would be interested in acting as coinvestor. And there is the possibility of joint venture funds; our partners have superior knowledge of global nanotechnology markets and may be able to provide a flow of competitive projects, a factory, in the best sense, of new technological businesses. Finally, RUSNANO has 93 projects at the moment, and it is entirely possible that some of our guests will be interested in a role as coinvestor and developer of those businesses in international markets, including the United States.”
                    “Russia is going through an interest stage of development,” observed New Enterprise Associates founder Dick Kramlich. We see the first wave of technological entrepreneurship. I think it is vitally important to promote those technologies in which Russia holds the lead, areas like materials sciences, nuclear technologies, energy. I would put medical technologies on the list of forefront positions.
                    “During our discussions, we were able to define sectors where the experience and knowledge of our Russian colleagues are the most competitive,” said DCM general partner Dixon Doll. Developing software support, alternative energy, nanotechnologies, these are Russia’s strong suits, and they open new opportunities for Russian scientists and engineers.”

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                    • #26
                      Re: Technology bubble ten years later: The money’s not back

                      Originally posted by EJ View Post
                      One area I'm bullish on is companies that are commercializing technologies that reduce energy consumption.
                      How about a 100,000 times lower?
                      I need tech help please,,, Graphene or Molybdenite?

                      http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-n...o-beat-silicon
                      New material for semis said to beat silicon


                      R. Colin Johnson

                      2/1/2011 11:43 AM EST

                      PORTLAND, Ore.—A new semiconductor material called molybdenite (MoS2) is claimed to be 100,000 times lower power than silicon, plus will allow the fabrication of much smaller transistors, according to researchers at Switzerland's Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne (EPGL).

                      As a next-generation semiconductor material, molybdenite also beats graphene by possessing a bandgap, according the EPGL.

                      http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnal...ngry-chips.htm

                      http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-01-...-graphene.html

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                      • #27
                        Re: Technology bubble ten years later: The money’s not back

                        Nice find, Bill and two cool materials.

                        I don't see that it fits EJ's investment thesis of technologies that reduce energy consumption, because it's a chip-level technology.
                        I believe EJ means reducing energy consumption on the scale of national power grids and affecting petroleum imports. The materials you mention would extend battery life in laptops and cell-phones, which don't consume enough power to affect the cheap-peak-oil calculations.

                        None the less, these materials might make somebody a bloody fortune - mass consumer electronics are a huge market.
                        Molybdenite is new to me, but the 2010 Nobel prize for physics was awarded to the 2 people who did early work in graphene.

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                        • #28
                          Re: Technology bubble ten years later: The money’s not back

                          Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
                          Nice find, Bill and two cool materials.

                          I don't see that it fits EJ's investment thesis of technologies that reduce energy consumption, because it's a chip-level technology.
                          .

                          Read the link
                          Replace every street light with one of these and see if it reduces energy consumption.

                          http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-01-...-graphene.html
                          100,000 times less energy
                          "It's a two-dimensional material, very thin and easy to use in nanotechnology. It has real potential in the fabrication of very small transistors, light-emitting diodes (LEDs)
                          BTW see this in your back yard.
                          Reduce weight use less fuel.
                          http://www.quickstep.com.au/files/do...QHL_170610.pdf

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                          • #29
                            Re: Technology bubble ten years later: The money’s not back

                            Originally posted by bill View Post

                            BTW see this in your back yard.
                            Reduce weight use less fuel.
                            http://www.quickstep.com.au/files/do...QHL_170610.pdf
                            Yes, the advanced composite center at the University of Dayton. Not only is it near me physically, it's in a field I've worked in. We designed and manufactured heated vacuum tables for composite manufacturing and repair, and Quickstep is much like a vacuum table.

                            In a conventional vacuum table, a solid aluminum bed has resistance heaters under it or within it. The lid has a thick silicon rubber membrane against the table bed with heaters above the membrane. In a cure cycle, one places the form onto the table; lays the soft, sticky composite over the form (with appropriate bleed cloth and thermocouples and nonstick bags or sheets), and closes the lid. A vacuum pump pulls the air away from the table, drawing the flexible membrane tightly around the part pushing the composite hard against the form during cure. A PLC controls heat and pressure profile for the cure.

                            Conventional vacuum tables have two big drawbacks. The table bed is flat so you can only make one-sided parts. And once the big aluminum table bed is hot, it takes forever to cool down.

                            The Quickstep guys don't have a slab bed,they use another membrane on the bottom so parts can be two-sided. And they push pressurized fluid behind both top and bottom membranes rather than pulling a vacuum on the working side of the membrane. Further, they have supply tanks of fluid already hot or cold, so they can switch from pressurized hot fluid to pressurized cool fluid and not wait for the table to cool down or heat up.

                            Damn clever; they'll probably sell a few of these.

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                            • #30
                              Re: Technology bubble ten years later: The money’s not back

                              Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
                              Yes, the advanced composite center at the University of Dayton. Not only is it near me physically, it's in a field I've worked in. We designed and manufactured heated vacuum tables for composite manufacturing and repair, and Quickstep is much like a vacuum table.

                              In a conventional vacuum table, a solid aluminum bed has resistance heaters under it or within it. The lid has a thick silicon rubber membrane against the table bed with heaters above the membrane. In a cure cycle, one places the form onto the table; lays the soft, sticky composite over the form (with appropriate bleed cloth and thermocouples and nonstick bags or sheets), and closes the lid. A vacuum pump pulls the air away from the table, drawing the flexible membrane tightly around the part pushing the composite hard against the form during cure. A PLC controls heat and pressure profile for the cure.

                              Conventional vacuum tables have two big drawbacks. The table bed is flat so you can only make one-sided parts. And once the big aluminum table bed is hot, it takes forever to cool down.

                              The Quickstep guys don't have a slab bed,they use another membrane on the bottom so parts can be two-sided. And they push pressurized fluid behind both top and bottom membranes rather than pulling a vacuum on the working side of the membrane. Further, they have supply tanks of fluid already hot or cold, so they can switch from pressurized hot fluid to pressurized cool fluid and not wait for the table to cool down or heat up.

                              Damn clever; they'll probably sell a few of these.
                              Exciting field you’re in. Thanks for the info.
                              I own a few shares of QHL. They are to announce a major contract today.
                              http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/2011013...nq5jnnkbjq.pdf

                              adding contract
                              http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/2011020...9rhb3gmcjb.pdf
                              Last edited by bill; February 01, 2011, 06:22 PM.

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