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    34 percent of homeowners are clueless about their mortgage
    March 26, 2007 (bankrate.com)

    As concerns about subprime mortgages plague the nation's leaders and lenders, America's homeowners are confused and worried about their own mortgages, according to a recent poll commissioned by Bankrate.com.

    In the survey conducted by Gfk Roper, homeowners with mortgages were asked what type of mortgage they had. A stunning 34 percent of the homeowners had no idea.

    "That's a symptom of the complexity of the mortgage market today," says Ken Wade, chief executive officer of NeighborWorks America, a nonprofit organization that provides financing and training to neighborhood-based housing organizations.

    A generation ago, mortgages were made primarily through banks. Today there are many more types of organizations making mortgage loans, some of which are less regulated than banks. Adding to the confusion is the variety of loans now available to borrowers. "There is a proliferation of new products that come on line just about every week, and I think it creates confusion among consumers," says Wade.

    AntiSpin: I used to write for bankrate.com, so I have a certain bias, but their research is hard to argue with. So much for the idea that only drug addicts and old ladies who were sold crazy mortgages by sleazy fly-by-night lender reps are going to get hurt in the ongoing credit epiphany, now in progress.

    This story offers a statistical revelation: a lot of perfectly intelligent home dwellers with good credit have no idea what kind of mortgage they have.

    Am I surprised?

    For about, oh, 20 years I've given my friends the following lesson when they ask me for credit advice. The advice request usually comes in the form of, "We're buying a car and want to know, should we use the dealer's financing or home equity?"

    I start off by telling them that the right amount of your credit to use to buy a depreciating asset, such as a car, is zero. If that fails, because they don't have the cash, the next question is, "What do you mean, 'my credit?' It's mine? I thought the fill-in-the-blank (bank, car dealership, mortgage lender) was lending me money, you know, giving me something?"

    Which reveals problem #1: many highly educated citizens of the USA understand exactly nothing about money and credit. Forget for the moment who's to blame, but it's a fact. The person in question is a high educated person, wise in many respects, who you may even know by his byline if you read the national newspaper he writes for. However, he and his wife–dear old friends of many years–know considerably less about money, credit, and cash flow than the owner of the Main Street pet store in Tumbleweed, Kansas. If the pet store owner knew as little as they, he'd be out of business. My friends can continuously compound their errors because the credit system is designed to exploit the Monthly Payment Consumers not educate them.

    Next I ask, "There are two kinds of transactions when you buy something. What are they?"

    Again, not a complex question. Not five or a dozen, only two types of transactions. My friend and his wife are stymied.

    "Cash or credit," I reply. "A cash transaction results in a reduction in the amount of your savings and a credit transaction a reduction in the amount of your credit. Also, a credit transaction results in a debt."

    "Oh." They say.

    I go on.

    "The reduction in your credit means that you have less in your 'credit account' to tap for future borrowing, whether for good purposes or ill. A debt is a lien on your future labor–in economics terms 'rent'–such that you are, in affect, renting your future labor to those to whom you are going into debt. And at a discount, due to inflation."

    "Um, that doesn't sound good..."

    "No it isn't. Let me make it simple. If you are borrowing money and the value of the asset you are borrowing money to buy is not worth more when the debt is due in real–inflation adjusted–terms than it was worth at the time you borrowed the money, then you are agreeing to sell your labor at a discount. From the standpoint of your long term standard of living per unit of labor, you are better off living without the purchase at all, unless–and this is the big promise–you can outlive your creditor's claim on your labor, such as when a politician relieves you of it."

    Usually, right about here we changed the subject.

    A hundred years ago, a child with a basic education understood this. Now, hardly any well educated adult understands this. Instead, new loans are invented to increase the number and cost of rents on the Monthly Payment Consumer's future labor.

    Even the venerable James Grant doesn't get it, as we can see from this otherwise typically brilliant Grant performance. Paraphrasing, James says that we had credit bubbles centuries before the Fed existed. Creditors and debtors go mad on occasion, so don't blame the Fed.

    I'll gladly defer to James on matters of the credit markets generally, but I'm going to pull out my credentials as a bubble expert to say: nonsense. The credit system makes idiot savants of average citizens. If it's not apparent where the bubble started in any instance, it's only because one hasn't looked hard enough for its source–always, an extraordinary infusion of credit into the system. Behind every asset bubble is a government, a central bank, a bank syndicate–issuing some new credit. A bond offering is the usual way, but the credit can take many forms.

    Today the Fed got to defend its inaction as protector of the banking system at a hearing when Sandra F. Braunstein, Director, Division of Consumer and Community Affairs, testified on Subprime mortgages before the Subcommittee on Financial Institutions and Consumer Credit, Committee on Financial Services, U.S. House of Representatives.

    Sandra delivered the usual motherhood and apple pie story about the benefits of new financial technologies, which by re-labelling junk mortgages AAA via the magic of securitization made the dream of home ownership a reality for millions who would presumably otherwise be–ugh!–renters. Here's an example of Sandra's testimony:
    2001 Revisions to HOEPA Rules. In 1994, Congress enacted the Home Ownership and Equity Protection Act (HOEPA) as an amendment to the Truth in Lending Act (TILA), in response to testimony before Congress about predatory home equity lending practices in underserved markets, where some lenders were making high-rate, high-fee home equity loans to cash-poor homeowners. HOEPA identifies a class of high-cost mortgage loans through criteria keyed to the loans’ rates and fees and requires creditors to provide enhanced disclosures of, and to comply with substantive restrictions on, the terms of those loans. The Board implemented HOEPA through revisions to TILA rules effective in 1995.

    In 2001, the Board revised the HOEPA rules in response to renewed concerns about predatory lending. The 2001 rule changes, effective in 2002, extended HOEPA’s protections to more high-cost loans and strengthened HOEPA’s prohibitions and restrictions, including by requiring that lenders generally document and verify a consumer’s ability to repay a high-cost mortgage loan. In addition, the rule changes addressed concerns that high-cost loans were "packed" with credit life insurance or other similar products that increased the loan’s cost without commensurate benefit to consumers.
    You get the idea. You can just imagine your Congress-critter listening to this, like your Golden Retriever listening to you explain why he should stop chasing squirrels. You say, "If you chase squirrels you won't catch them because you are bred to chase not catch, you see, for herding, so you lack the instincts necessary..." He hears: "Blah, blah, blah..." (Sandra, don't forget rule #1 of politics: If you're explaining, you're losing.)

    Of course, according to reports by such Champions for The Poor as Credit Suisse and Lehman Bros.–not to mention a few real life champions for the poor, such as the Center for Responsible Lending and the Center for American Progress–a few million of them will be renting again soon enough, except this time without any credit, as it was chewed up and spit out in the process of foreclosure.

    Thanks financial technology! For setting millions up for failure.

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    Last edited by FRED; March 28, 2007, 03:39 PM.

  • #2
    Re: Clueless Home Dwellers and Risk Shifting

    It struck me today, the gov requires us to know the rules of the road before we buy a car. They give us a written test to ensure we have a basic grasp of what one can expect when we take the wheel of an automobile. This test certainly lowers the number of "clueless" drivers that cause accidents.

    So how is it that we don't have a loan test, administered by the gov that requires people to pass a basic understanding the key concepts of their loans? Of course the banks would be against it. It makes you wonder though. No wonder there are so many accidents.


    Originally posted by EJ
    34 percent of homeowners are clueless about their mortgage
    March 26, 2007 (bankrate.com)

    As concerns about subprime mortgages plague the nation's leaders and lenders, America's homeowners are confused and worried about their own mortgages, according to a recent poll commissioned by Bankrate.com.

    In the survey conducted by Gfk Roper, homeowners with mortgages were asked what type of mortgage they had. A stunning 34 percent of the homeowners had no idea.

    "That's a symptom of the complexity of the mortgage market today," says Ken Wade, chief executive officer of NeighborWorks America, a nonprofit organization that provides financing and training to neighborhood-based housing organizations.

    A generation ago, mortgages were made primarily through banks. Today there are many more types of organizations making mortgage loans, some of which are less regulated than banks. Adding to the confusion is the variety of loans now available to borrowers. "There is a proliferation of new products that come on line just about every week, and I think it creates confusion among consumers," says Wade.

    AntiSpin: I used to write for bankrate.com, so I have a certain bias. But their research is hard to argue with: so much for the idea that only drug addicts and old ladies who were sold crazy mortgages by sleazy fly-by-night lender reps are going to get hurt in the ongoing credit epiphany, now in progress.

    This story offers a statistical revelation: a lot of perfectly intelligent home dwellers with good credit have no idea what kind of mortgage they have.

    Am I surprised?

    For about, oh, 20 years I've given my friends the following lesson when they ask me for credit advice. The advice request usually comes in the form of, "We're buying a car and want to know, should we use the dealer's financing or home equity."

    I start off by telling them that the right amount of your credit to use to buy a depreciating asset, such as a car, is zero. If that fails, because they don't have the cash, the next question is, "What do you mean, 'my credit?' It's mine? I thought the fill-in-the-blank (bank, car dealership, mortgage lender) was lending me money, you know, giving me something?"

    Which reveals problem #1: many highly educated citizens of the USA understand exactly nothing about money and credit. Forget for the moment who's to blame, but it's a fact. The person in question is a high educated person, wise in many respects, who you may even know by his byline if you read that national newspaper he writes for. However, he and his wife–dear old friends of many years–know considerably less about money, credit, and cash flow than the owner of the Main Street pet store in Tumbleweed, Kansas. If the pet store owner knew as little as they, he'd be out of business. My friends can continuously compound their errors because the credit system is designed to support the Monthly Payment Consumer on behalf of large corporations, not to help small companies prosper.

    Next I ask, "There are two kinds of transactions when you buy something. What are they?"

    Again, not a complex question. Not five or a dozen, only two types of transactions. My friend and his wife are stymied.

    "Cash or credit," I reply. "A cash transaction results in a reduction in the amount of your savings and a credit transaction a reduction in the amount of your credit. Also, a credit transaction results in a debt."

    "Oh." They say.

    I go on.

    "The reduction in your credit means that you have less in your 'credit account' to tap for future borrowing, whether for good purposes or ill. A debt is a lien on your future labor–in economics terms 'rent'–such that you are, in affect, renting your future labor to those to whom you are going into debt. And at a discount, due to inflation."

    "Um, that doesn't sound good..."

    "No it isn't. Let me make it simple. If you are borrowing money and the value of the asset you are borrowing money to buy is not worth more when the debt is due in real–inflation adjusted–terms than it was worth at the time you borrowed the money, then you are agreeing to sell your labor at a discount. From the standpoint of your long term standard of living per unit of labor, you are better off living without the purchase at all, unless–and this is the big promise–you can outlive your creditor's claim on your labor, such as when a politician relieves you of it."

    Usually, right about here we changed the subject.

    A hundred years ago, a child with a basic education understood this. Now, hardly any well educated adult understands this.

    Even the venerable James Grant doesn't get it, as we can see from this otherwise typically brilliant Grant performance. Paraphrasing, James says that we had credit bubbles centuries before the Fed existed. Creditors and debtors go mad on occasion, so don't blame the Fed.

    I'll gladly defer to James on matters of the credit markets generally, but I'm going to pull out my credentials as a bubble expert to say: nonsense. The credit system makes idiot savants of average citizens. If it's not apparent where the bubble started in any instance, it's only because one hasen't looked hard enough for its source–always, an extraordinary infusion of credit into the system. Behind every asset bubble is a government, a central bank, a bank syndicate–issuing some new credit. A bond offering is the usual way, but the credit can take many forms.

    Today the Fed got to defend its inaction as protector of the banking system at a hearing when Sandra F. Braunstein, Director, Division of Consumer and Community Affairs, testified on Subprime mortgages before the Subcommittee on Financial Institutions and Consumer Credit, Committee on Financial Services, U.S. House of Representatives.

    Sandra delivered the usual motherhood and apple pie story about the benefits of new financial technologies, which by re-labelling junk mortgages AAA via the magic of securitization made the dream of home ownership a reality for millions who would presumably otherwise be–ugh!–renters. Here's an example of Sandra's testimony:
    2001 Revisions to HOEPA Rules. In 1994, Congress enacted the Home Ownership and Equity Protection Act (HOEPA) as an amendment to the Truth in Lending Act (TILA), in response to testimony before Congress about predatory home equity lending practices in underserved markets, where some lenders were making high-rate, high-fee home equity loans to cash-poor homeowners. HOEPA identifies a class of high-cost mortgage loans through criteria keyed to the loans’ rates and fees and requires creditors to provide enhanced disclosures of, and to comply with substantive restrictions on, the terms of those loans. The Board implemented HOEPA through revisions to TILA rules effective in 1995.

    In 2001, the Board revised the HOEPA rules in response to renewed concerns about predatory lending. The 2001 rule changes, effective in 2002, extended HOEPA’s protections to more high-cost loans and strengthened HOEPA’s prohibitions and restrictions, including by requiring that lenders generally document and verify a consumer’s ability to repay a high-cost mortgage loan. In addition, the rule changes addressed concerns that high-cost loans were "packed" with credit life insurance or other similar products that increased the loan’s cost without commensurate benefit to consumers.
    You get the idea. You can just imagine your Congress-critter listening to this, like your Golden Retriever listening to you explain why he should stop chasing squirrels. You say, "If you chase squirrels you won't catch them because you are bred to chase not catch, you see, for herding, so you lack the instincts necessary..." He hears: "Blah, blah, blah..." (Sandra, don't forget rule #1 of politics: If you're explaining, you're losing.")

    Of course, according to reports by such Champions for The Poor as Credit Suisse and Lehman Bros.–not to mention a few real life champions for the poor–such as the Center for Responsible Lending and the Center for American Progress, a few million of them will be renting again soon enough, except this time without any credit, as it was chewed up and spit out in the process of foreclosure.

    Thanks financial technology! For setting millions up for failure.

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    Last edited by DanielLCharts; March 28, 2007, 12:49 AM.
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    • #3
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      danny we also don't need a test to know how to buy a car... just to drive it.

      as far as basic knowledge, as bad as people are with money, they are even more horribly ignorant of health. To me it's insane how our primary education in schools leaves out the fundamentals of both money and finance and human health and well-being. But corporations don't want people to know about health either (just like money), because if god forbid we actually showed kids how human bodies worked with nutrition and exercise, mcdonald's and coke and all these companies wouldn't exist.

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      • #4
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        Our public education system gets slammed enough, sort of, but as I was reading this piece I couldn't help but think of the first few lines of the Paul Simon song, "Kodachrome."

        "When I look back on all the crap I learned in high school, it's a wonder I can think at all."

        People are just not equipped to understand what is being offered to them in this economy. Blame the parents, the schools, etc., it doesn't matter where the failing happened. It's set in deep and there will be hell to pay.
        It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye!

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        • #5
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          My wife and I bought an item at a retail chain store over the weekend. My wife, holder of the household exchequer, paid cash, a twenty dollar bill. A register malfunction failed to give the clerk, a sweet, pert, late teens gal, the change amount due my wife. A look of frozen panic crossed the checker's face. How to get from $13.67 to $20 was clearly beyond her. It was an awkward moment for everyone. Her manager slowly talked her through the climb to 20 bucks. It was appalling. What chance in hell does this kid have understanding buying anything in her near-future?

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          • #6
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            I've seen that frozen climb to 20 several times since the computers starting doing the heavy lifting. I can remember as a child (kodachrome days) when every clerk was taught to "count back" the change. It never happens now; they look at the machine and say, "here's your change."
            It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye!

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            • #7
              Re: Clueless Home Dwellers and Risk Shifting

              My 13 yr old son and I sometimes watch CNBC. I filter the propaganda and interpt as needed. Yesterdays topic was " yen carry trade and asset inflation "; later we branched off into " ethanol " production.

              The captialist pigs dont want the " average joe " knowing about how certain economic systems work. I kinda equate this to a certain religon that kept people illiterate for a reason.:rolleyes:
              I one day will run with the big dogs in the world currency markets, and stick it to the man

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