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  • #16
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    Hey put the gun down, and step back from the ledge - it's going to be OK we have EJ

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    • #17
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      Originally posted by RickBishop View Post
      Hey put the gun down, and step back from the ledge - it's going to be OK we have EJ
      sapiens have some turkey and wine. watch some football. take a day off. the end of the world will still be here tomorrow.

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      • #18
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        Sapiens,

        Is this a document you are referencing? Is it somebody's research? What does честный mean?

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by Rajiv View Post
          Sapiens,

          Is this a document you are referencing? Is it somebody's research? What does честный mean?
          It means "Fair".

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          • #20
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            Fascinating. Seems he was off by at least a couple of years, though, as he keeps referencing late 2005 as the date of the upcoming collapse.

            One of the original responses to this suggests looking at Argentina as a model for what's likely to happen here. The same thought occurred to me when I read Confessions of an Economic Hitman: They've pretty much gone through all the third world nations sucking everything out. Now they're on to the US. So who's likely to do well here? Look at who did well in Argentina: people holding PM's and foreign currency.

            365 cans of stew is not a bad idea, either.

            Thanks for the post, Sapiens.

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            • #21
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              Originally posted by metalman View Post
              sapiens have some turkey and wine. watch some football. take a day off. the end of the world will still be here tomorrow.
              LOL. good one.

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              • #22
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                Originally posted by Rajiv View Post
                Sapiens,

                Is this a document you are referencing? Is it somebody's research?
                http://hypertiger.blogspot.com/

                Although he is right, I think he has lost it. The truth seem to be too much for him to bear.

                I on the other hand, am still afflicted by a panglossian virus.

                Originally posted by Rajiv View Post
                Sapiens,

                What does честный mean?
                honest, straightforward.

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                • #23
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                  Originally posted by Sapiens View Post
                  http://hypertiger.blogspot.com/

                  Although he is right, I think he has lost it. The truth seem to be too much for him to bear.
                  It felt like I was reading a cross between Louis Evan and the Unibomber.

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                  • #24
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                    Originally posted by Sapiens View Post
                    http://hypertiger.blogspot.com/

                    Although he is right, I think he has lost it. The truth seem to be too much for him to bear.

                    I on the other hand, am still afflicted by a panglossian virus.



                    honest, straightforward.

                    Hypertiger is a "She Tiger" (Cheryl-Lynné Rose Henderson)

                    See also her blog on the Mortgage "Industry"

                    Apparently, the "easy money" con artists in the mortgage industry are finding the transition into a productive line of work difficult. The skills of the typical uneducated mortgage 'professional' - lying, cheating, defrauding - aren't usually required outside of get rich quick scams.

                    Increased 'illegal alien' enforcement is coming to the rescue of those now unemployed, with California farmers complaining they will have difficulty bringing their produce to market without unskilled slave-wage laborers to harvest the crops.

                    My advice to all the Mortgage Fraud Peddlers: If you can pick a payment - you can pick a pear.

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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by Rajiv View Post
                      Hypertiger is a "She Tiger" (Cheryl-Lynné Rose Henderson)

                      See also her blog on the Mortgage "Industry"
                      i don't get it. why read this giant heap of incoherent gobbledegook when you can read hudson's Saving, Asset-Price Inflation, and Debt-Induced Deflation? it makes the same points clearly and in a few pages. yeh, the reader needs to understand a thing or two about econ and finance to understand hudson whereas with the tiger the reader just settles into the spirit and cadence of the rant... no deep comprehension required. it's like mish mash and these other hacks with no business or econ or finance background who don't really know what the fuck they're talking about. readers don't really know what they reading, but they know the writer sounds pissed off while is throwing around words like "debt deflation" and "CDO" and that's it's good enough for them! entertainment, like jim cramer except for bears.

                      never mind. i think i answered my own question.

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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by metalman View Post
                        never mind. i think i answered my own question.
                        Smart man.

                        http://www.fdic.gov/deposit/insuranc...e/smithaba.pdf
                        Last edited by Sapiens; November 26, 2007, 12:33 PM. Reason: hiding links

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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by metalman View Post
                          i don't get it. why read this giant heap of incoherent gobbledegook when you can read hudson's Saving, Asset-Price Inflation, and Debt-Induced Deflation? it makes the same points clearly and in a few pages.
                          It often takes a lot of thinking for all the implications of the Hudson thesis to seep in. This is where the rant comes in! It is very useful in taking the reader to an understanding of the implications of what is happening.

                          It is the difference between a full scale novel compared to the bare plot!

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                          • #28
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                            Continuing Hypertiger's blog

                            The Bottom Won't Be Liquidating The Top

                            You just don't get it: THE US DEBT INFLATIONARY ENGINE powers the planet...

                            All those in India and China? You in the US pay them. They work for you...When the US goes down they have nothing to do.

                            You have no idea...It took 300 years to get to the end of the line there is no fix...There is no rewind button...The string of quick fixes piled on top of quick fixes on top of quick fixes is almost at an end...The back up Global economy is not going to kick in when the Global economy fails.

                            The plan? There is no plan. All the oil and raw materials that India and China consume are paid for with US dollars that you in the US give them when you cash out refi your houses and swipe your credit cards...

                            All the system can do is inflate to its maximum potential then implode...End of story...

                            Bernanke and the magical printing press? A fairy tale told to children to keep them from having nightmares...

                            The US is the beating heart of the global economic system...its connection to Europe is Germany...Its economy is dependent on the US...and it is fragile. But not as fragile as Japan which is a walking dead man...It is the primary US connection to Asia...

                            Japan's entire economy is so dependent on US debt inflation it's sick...It is basically bleeding to death and the only thing keeping it alive is US debt inflation transfusions...every day day in and day out for the past 15 years.

                            All three combined form the top of the system or 60% of the world GDP the other 190 nations on Earth make up the other 40%.

                            The US component of the Global system is twice as big as Japan which is twice as big as Germany...Germany is the largest economy in the Euro zone...

                            You are all in a trance...You have been hypnotized...

                            It's so game over it is hard to believe...The vast majority are oblivious...so oblivious that a new word would have to be created to label how oblivious everyone is.

                            People say, Hyper what is the solution?

                            IMPLOSION IS THE ONLY SOLUTION

                            You either attach interest or you don't...

                            Hyper I just blew this persons head off and it was a mistake what's the solution? Start digging a grave.

                            The world began to implode in 1930-1945 during the Bankruptcy reorganization of the world and since 1945 it has been inflate debt forever or die...and the system is still bankrupt and in mindboggling worse shape since then.

                            Economists? The product of a complete malinvestment in a disfunctional higher education system.

                            Most of the Fortune 500 are Enron accounting tricks, they will fold like houses of cards without massive debt inflation.

                            Compounding interest systems only get weaker the longer they operate.

                            I assure you behind the scenes they are all beginning to shit themselves. It must be crystal clear to a few of them by now that their ancestors screwed them so good it's unimaginable...

                            If it were possible to download what I know into your your heads you would flip out and commit suicide and at the very least crumple to the ground rocking back and forth sobbing why why why over and over again.

                            I started researching when I was 9 years old so I'm completely immune to the One world religion, the just think positive inflation forever religion...I knew the basic mechanics of fractional reserve banking when I was 17...It basically took 12 more years to identify interest attached to the medium of exchange flaw and the basic mechanics of the Compounding interest/Banking system.

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                            • #29
                              It's Not The Banks That Are Responsible

                              More from Hypertiger
                              It's Not The Banks That Are Responsible

                              You currrently depend upon chopping down trees faster than they regrow to sustain the delusion that you have the power to imagine more trees into existance to sustain the delusion. That is the illusion you want me to believe is greater reality. I'm well aware that our awareness of the Universe is not inside the Universe and is not constrained by it.

                              Unfortunately that is why what you think you can accomplish within the constraints of the Universe does not work out when put into practice within the Universe. Attempting to tranform your imagination into reality is what got us into this situation. I'm well aware that inflation greater than previous inflation that lasts forever can be sustained forever in your imagination...

                              It can't be inside of the Universe...

                              And the very instant you choose to think, believe, and have faith that it can be...The shattering of that delusion is certain and inevitable. All the ruins coating the suface of the Earth are the logical conclusion of the choice to think believe and have faith that inflation greater than previous inflation lasts forever inside the Universe.

                              You may be able to sustain the required power to sustain denial...I try to not power denial...The longer you power it...the worse the consequences will be when you can no longer power it.

                              Your best bet is to hope to cease to exist before you are forced to accept what you are currently powering the denial of. That of course will not help everyone else you leave behind...but you don't care about all of them...They are all just illusions...figments of your imagination to use and abuse how you see fit.

                              It's not the banks that are responsible...Consumers request banks to supply liquidity...The business of banking is sustained by supplying consumers with liquidity...

                              You all want more and more money and you all certainly are not going to happy with the mines can't keep up with demand excuse when the mines run dry.

                              It takes Trillions of dollars to sustain the global circulation currently...the demand for more money by consumers globally is growing by about 3 Trillion dollars every 90 days...If it required one ounce of silver to construct one dollar...3 trillion ounces of silver would need to be produced every 90 days to supply the current demand for money if silver was required as a component in it's construction.

                              3 Trillion dollars or so globally every 90 days just to keep the whole soap opera you all play your parts in functioning...Failure to supply the demand for money globally will result in the implosion of the global system...

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