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  • #16
    Re: RUSSIA'S UNDENIABLE WAR PREPARATIONS by J. R. Nyquist

    Originally posted by Tet View Post
    Russia lost well over 20 million people in the Great War, China had similar losses. Russia and China believe these losses came about because of the international raping of Germany after WWI that brought about Hitler. Now why would Russia and China want to create another Hitler? I doubt we're heading to the poor house, it's not in the worlds best interests.
    I have met many very wealthy people in my life, from every background and nation you can think of. I do not know one that is an Rand follower. Sun Tsu, yes. Rand is the flip side of the coin with Karl Marx on the other.

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    • #17
      Re: RUSSIA'S UNDENIABLE WAR PREPARATIONS by J. R. Nyquist

      Originally posted by EJ View Post
      I have met many very wealthy people in my life, from every background and nation you can think of. I do not know one that is an Rand follower. Sun Tsu, yes. Rand is the flip side of the coin with Karl Marx on the other.
      The funniest global political moment that I can remember was when China's President Hu gave young George Bush Very Junior a very ancient, very valuable copy of Sun Tsu's Art of War. I think this was when I realized that the Chinese were in complete and total control of events in the world and have a very good sense of humor. One out of Eight women in the world is Chinese, I'm willing to concede defeat if no one realizes what this means. Shortly after President Hu gave young George the Art of War I sold my gold, not the best timing in the world, but I believe it will prove to be good enough. Sometimes events and the news makes me overcome my view of the chart and this was one of those moments. Good comparison, Rand and good ole Marx. Do you know if they were brother and sister?
      "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
      - Charles Mackay

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      • #18
        Re: RUSSIA'S UNDENIABLE WAR PREPARATIONS by J. R. Nyquist

        Originally posted by metalman View Post
        let's see if i can be as diligent as the luke man...

        compare to itulip:

        - Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research
        - Martin Mayer - World's leading banking expert (just saw him in this week's barron's)
        - Michael Hudson - credible world class economist
        - Jamie Galbraith - credible world class economist
        - Peter Morici, University of Maryland business school professor and former chief economist of the U.S. International Trade Commission under the Clinton administration
        - Kevin Hassett, director of economic policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute
        - Lakshman Achuthan, managing director of the Economic Cycle Research Institute and a governor of the Levy Economics Institute at Bard College
        - James O’Sullivan, a UBS economist
        - Ken Goldstein, an economist with the Conference Board
        - Russ Roberts, a professor of economics at George Mason University
        - Ron Blackwell, chief economist of the AFL-CIO
        - Dr. Richard Curtin, director of the Surveys of Consumers at the University of Michigan
        - John Challenger, CEO Challenger, Grey, Christmas
        - James D. Scurlock, Author, "Maxed Out"
        - Jim Rogers
        - Eric Janszen

        see the diff?


        Yes, of course there's a difference... and your bias is showing too with mild pejoratives like "peak oil doomer" and "goldbug".


        Appeal To False Authority:
        Your logical fallacies aren't logical fallacies at all because Einstein said so. Einstein also said that this one is better.
        Last edited by FRED; January 12, 2009, 07:22 PM.
        http://www.NowAndTheFuture.com

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        • #19
          Re: RUSSIA'S UNDENIABLE WAR PREPARATIONS by J. R. Nyquist

          Originally posted by bart View Post
          Yes, of course there's a difference... and your bias is showing too with mild pejoratives like "peak oil doomer" and "goldbug".


          Appeal To False Authority:
          Your logical fallacies aren't logical fallacies at all because Einstein said so. Einstein also said that this one is better.
          Einstein also stole every idea he ever had, he did work in the Patent Office in Germany reviewing everything he ever claimed to come up with. But I do agree with the comparison, Einstein, Peak Oil, Peak Gold and Peak Warming. All of these are scams, especially good ole Albert.
          "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
          - Charles Mackay

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          • #20
            Re: RUSSIA'S UNDENIABLE WAR PREPARATIONS by J. R. Nyquist

            Originally posted by Tet View Post
            Einstein also stole every idea he ever had, he did work in the Patent Office in Germany reviewing everything he ever claimed to come up with. But I do agree with the comparison, Einstein, Peak Oil, Peak Gold and Peak Warming. All of these are scams, especially good ole Albert.
            Repeated Assertion:
            I say that this is the best logical fallacy.
            I say again that this is the best logical fallacy.
            I say again and again that this is the best logical fallacy.
            I say again and again and again that this is the best logical fallacy.



            You will certainly live in interesting times.
            http://www.NowAndTheFuture.com

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            • #21
              Re: RUSSIA'S UNDENIABLE WAR PREPARATIONS by J. R. Nyquist

              Originally posted by bart View Post
              Repeated Assertion:
              I say that this is the best logical fallacy.
              I say again that this is the best logical fallacy.
              I say again and again that this is the best logical fallacy.
              I say again and again and again that this is the best logical fallacy.



              You will certainly live in interesting times.
              I believe the mark to be under the shell on your left. To believe in anything other than economic slight of hand is a complete waste of time. There is only one logic to this game, you put your money down and the House takes your money away. Period.
              "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
              - Charles Mackay

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              • #22
                Re: RUSSIA'S UNDENIABLE WAR PREPARATIONS by J. R. Nyquist

                Originally posted by Tet View Post
                I believe the mark to be under the shell on your left. To believe in anything other than economic slight of hand is a complete waste of time. There is only one logic to this game, you put your money down and the House takes your money away. Period.


                As I said:

                Repeated Assertion:
                I say that this is the best logical fallacy.
                I say again that this is the best logical fallacy.
                I say again and again that this is the best logical fallacy.
                I say again and again and again that this is the best logical fallacy.




                Alternate choices:

                Appeal to the Bandwagon:
                It's obvious that Bandwagon is going to win as the greatest fallacy. You wouldn't want to be one of the losers who choose something else, would you?


                Appeal to Fear:
                If you don't accept Appeal to Fear as the greatest fallacy, then THE TERRORISTS WILL HAVE WON. Do you want that on your conscience, that THE TERRORISTS WILL HAVE WON because you were a pansy who didn't really think that Appeal to Fear was worth voting for, and you wanted to vote for something else? Of course not, and neither would the people you let die because THE TERRORISTS WILL HAVE WON.


                Appeal To Majority:
                Most people think that this fallacy is the best, so clearly it is.


                Appeal To Tradition:
                We've used Appeal to Tradition for centuries: how can it possibly be wrong?


                Burden Of Proof:
                Can you prove that Burden of Proof isn't the best logical fallacy?
                http://www.NowAndTheFuture.com

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                • #23
                  Re: RUSSIA'S UNDENIABLE WAR PREPARATIONS by J. R. Nyquist

                  Originally posted by Tet View Post
                  There is only one logic to this game, you put your money down and the House takes your money away. Period.
                  If you really believe this, Tet, why do you bother to invest?:confused:

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                  • #24
                    Re: RUSSIA'S UNDENIABLE WAR PREPARATIONS by J. R. Nyquist

                    Originally posted by zoog View Post
                    If you really believe this, Tet, why do you bother to invest?:confused:
                    I do my best to bet like the House.
                    "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
                    - Charles Mackay

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                    • #25
                      Re: RUSSIA'S UNDENIABLE WAR PREPARATIONS by J. R. Nyquist

                      Originally posted by EJ
                      I have met many very wealthy people in my life, from every background and nation you can think of. I do not know one that is an Rand follower. Sun Tsu, yes. Rand is the flip side of the coin with Karl Marx on the other.
                      Interesting you should see this.

                      I've seen this too - but my take is this: Sun Tzu is basically like a computer program: if a), then b); if c), then d).

                      You can actually reduce all of the Art of War into a series of if-then propositions. In fact there were a few written although I don't have one anymore.

                      This is extremely attractive to the control freak/chess player sub-type - imagine being able to control literally everything just by understanding the situation and applying the correct strategy.

                      I'm more of the revolutionist; all my life I've enjoyed examining systems and placing large sticks in the holes I find therein.

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                      • #26
                        Re: RUSSIA'S UNDENIABLE WAR PREPARATIONS by J. R. Nyquist

                        A great article in the Sunday 9/02/07 Washington Post Outlook Section.

                        In effect, it said that while it is popular to call the end of the US "empire", what the US doomsayers tend to do is overestimate the problems the US faces and underestimate the problems of the other potential superpowers.

                        Russia? A spent force trying to regain glory with a last gasp authoritarian government riding a resource boom. Russian population trends are in serious decline and they have a Muslim threat nipping at their heels, as well. Didn`t the Soviets try and fail to reach world hegemony without a vibrant private sector and empowered citizens. What makes one think they will be more effective this time? Nyquist claims America is doing nothing while Russia re-arms. How does he figure that? I have many friends in the "military industrial complex" and I can assure you, there are many bright people working on some very innovative ideas.

                        China? Sure, 1 in 8 women are Chinese but the one child rule effectively diminsihes that demographic threat. They are riding a 10% plus annual economic boom but how long can they sustain that while stripping their ecosystems? My guess is that the Chinese are running on reserves right now trying to make themsleves look good in anticipation of the Olympics. Once the Olympic party is over next summer, the hangover will start when people see that their boom has been unsustainable and needs to take a breather.

                        In short, the best way America can rebuff threats is to continue to be American.
                        Last edited by BiscayneSunrise; September 03, 2007, 03:31 PM.
                        Greg

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                        • #27
                          Re: RUSSIA'S UNDENIABLE WAR PREPARATIONS by J. R. Nyquist

                          Originally posted by BiscayneSunrise View Post
                          A great article in the Sunday 9/02/07 Washington Post Outlook Section.

                          In effect, it said that while it is popular to call the end of the US "empire", what the US doomsayers tend to do is overestimate the problems the US faces and underestimate the problems of the other potential superpowers.

                          Russia? A spent force trying to regain glory with a last gasp authoritarian government riding a resource boom. Russian population trends are in serious decline and they have a Muslim threat nipping at their heels, as well. Didn`t the Soviets try and fail to reach world hegemony without a vibrant private sector and empowered citizens. What makes one think they will be more effective this time? Nyquist claims America is doing nothing while Russia re-arms. How does he figure that? I have many friends in the "military industrial complex" and I can assure you, there are many bright people working on some very innovative ideas.

                          China? Sure, 1 in 8 women are Chinese but the one child rule effectively diminsihes that demographic threat. They are riding a 10% plus annual economic boom but how long can they sustain that while stripping their ecosystems? My guess is that the Chinese are running on reserves right now trying to make themsleves look good in anticipation of the Olympics. Once the Olympic party is over next summer, the hangover will start when people see that their boom has been unsustainable and needs to take a breather.

                          In short, the best way America can rebuff threats is to continue to be American.
                          the most cynical take on the new cold war myth... ever.

                          cold war bullshit

                          http://exile.ru/articles/detail.php?...6&IBLOCK_ID=35

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                          • #28
                            Re: RUSSIA'S UNDENIABLE WAR PREPARATIONS by J. R. Nyquist

                            Very Funny and Very true. I especially liked the part about the aging Sovietologist saying the new generation of pundits deserves to have their own cold war to assess. Being a geopolitical academic is a great gig, it sure beats having to be right.
                            Greg

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