Who stole my cheesy economy? - Eric Janszen

[cjppjc]

Re: Who stole my cheesy economy? - Eric Janszen

Yeah, I may have been caught-up in the moment, on the other hand, there are a handful of active itulip-ers that are already knee-deep in self-sufficiency and hunkering down for a potential financial and societal s%&t-storm. With each passing day. it's sounding more and more attractive to me, too.

Yes. Caught up in the moment. Did you see how caught up in the moment everybody was just now in the oil thread?

Btw: There is nothing wrong with a cabin in the woods. And I certainly admire the more self sufficient among us. Wish I could be a little more self sufficient.

[Chris Coles]

Re: Who stole my cheesy economy? - Eric Janszen

Yes. Caught up in the moment. Did you see how caught up in the moment everybody was just now in the oil thread?

Btw: There is nothing wrong with a cabin in the woods. And I certainly admire the more self sufficient among us. Wish I could be a little more self sufficient.

Some years ago I remember an article in a science magazine that suggested that a little paranoia is a built in survival instinct in the human race and that it makes a compelling reason for our long term survival as a species. And just to add a little spice to add to a reason for keeping an eye on possible future events, this article in this weeks New Scientist is very well worth a read. In effect it covers in more detail a recent NASA report that echos personal advice given to me by someone here in the UK that has direct knowledge of such things. We have built a civilisation upon the notion of success with electricity grids with cheap overhead wires strung across the nation. But, if we experience a solar storm of the power of one that occurred before we had these grids, we may lose all electricity for as much as ten years. The reason being that the power surge in the overhead wires will melt the Copper windings of the several hundred transformers that link the system. Those transformers are so large and difficult to construct, they always, even in the best of times, take about two years to build and we do not have, even in the best of times, the capacity to build more than a few at a time. Now add that the entire food and water and fuel supply systems are all totally dependant upon the electricity grid to supply the power and we have the potential for a complete collapse of our entire civilisation within a period of about 90 seconds.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...tastrophe.html

[cjppjc]

Re: Who stole my cheesy economy? - Eric Janszen

Some years ago I remember an article in a science magazine that suggested that a little paranoia is a built in survival instinct in the human race and that it makes a compelling reason for our long term survival as a species. And just to add a little spice to add to a reason for keeping an eye on possible future events, this article in this weeks New Scientist is very well worth a read. In effect it covers in more detail a recent NASA report that echos personal advice given to me by someone here in the UK that has direct knowledge of such things. We have built a civilisation upon the notion of success with electricity grids with cheap overhead wires strung across the nation. But, if we experience a solar storm of the power of one that occurred before we had these grids, we may lose all electricity for as much as ten years. The reason being that the power surge in the overhead wires will melt the Copper windings of the several hundred transformers that link the system. Those transformers are so large and difficult to construct, they always, even in the best of times, take about two years to build and we do not have, even in the best of times, the capacity to build more than a few at a time. Now add that the entire food and water and fuel supply systems are all totally dependant upon the electricity grid to supply the power and we have the potential for a complete collapse of our entire civilisation within a period of about 90 seconds.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...tastrophe.html

Hard to stay happy after that:confused:

[Chris Coles]

Re: Who stole my cheesy economy? - Eric Janszen

Hard to stay happy after that:confused:

If something like that ever does occur, the people that will survive will be those that have given a few moments thought, no more, towards what will keep them alive after such an event. Others will be those that have never given up the now old fashioned idea of holding food in storage jars to see them over the winter and have access to a piece of land to grow their own food. Water you can find, but it will be only food that you otherwise need. Something we take for granted. The rest of what we call civilisation is completely irrelevant. All we need to survive is water, food and somewhere to provide a roof over our heads. Please, think about that!