News of the Weird: June 10, 2009 - Eric Janszen

[vanvaley1]

Re: News of the Weird: June 10, 2009 - Eric Janszen

Tax political contributions. 5% for $10 bucks and under and 95% for anything above that. Call it a political service tax. Taxes raised to go toward paying down the debt...the patriotic thing to do. So contributors know they supporting the US by providing political contributions. Who could possibly be against this and mom's apple pie?

That outta put a dent in the influence that lobbyists wield.

[metalman]

Re: News of the Weird: June 10, 2009 - Eric Janszen

Tax political contributions.

that's the one tax congress will never pass.

[BuckarooBanzai]

Re: News of the Weird: June 10, 2009 - Eric Janszen

I was not so much advocating for Obama as afraid, based on information I had at the time, that McCain might pull a Nixon, that is, fail in the pre-election polls but win the election. At least with Obama there existed a potential to avoid disaster versus certain disaster with McCain. Most felt that a McCain win was impossible, but history is full of instances when voters in the privacy of the voting booth did the opposite of what they told pollsters they'd do.

I'll stand by my assertion that electing a black president was an important step for the nation. I will also say that I believe that Obama is essentially honest, but in way over his head. I don't see dishonesty, I see naivety, although tainted with a desire for power. When he appeared honestly surprised by the severity of the economic collapse, that told me he wanted the job too much, always a worrisome character trait in any leader. Others saw this quality before I did.

I expected a man who ran such a tight campaign to run a tight administration, but it's over-stretched and floundering, already taking on Jimmy Carter administration qualities. Partly that is due to his underestimation of the economic trap he let himself be pulled into. Still, I'm certain McCain would be handing it immeasurably worse.

Long before his first 100 days were up, Obama's choices of Geithner and Summers, and the pushing aside of Paul Volcker, were a dead giveaway that we were in trouble. These decisions reflected poorly on his judgment.

I admit, however, that I did fall for some of the rhetoric. Hudson and others here who were more critical were right and I was wrong on that score.

The U.S. is in dire need of a viable 3rd party.

Politicians are masters of the art of illusion. They are-- at best-- confidence artists. They are, at worst, sociopaths. Incidentally, if you look at the clinical definition of a sociopath, the defining characteristics are almost identical to that of your garden-variety politician.

How does one properly evaluate a con artist? When you know they make their living mixing lies and the truth, how do you sort out the truth?

Rule 1: NEVER listen to what they say. Instead, look at what they DO.

Obama's track record in Illinois was clear to anyone who had eyes to see. He was socialist, bordering on marxist.

Rule 2: Carefully examine who they associate with.

Again-- the warning signs were there for anyone who bothered to look. One the one hand, you had clear associations with extremely dubious personalities from the revolutionary left (William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright), on the other hand, you had traditional liberal power brokers (the Harvard crowd, the Wall Street crowd who gave him a gigantic amount of campaign financing). At best, this indicates that he is a very confused about his own identity. At worst, it indicates a highly unstable personality, possibly someone who has multiple personalities.

Rule 3: Carefully examine the family and work environment for clues.

Well his family situation was about as big a mess as you could imagine. Crazy hippie mother who dragged him all over the world, and an alcoholic bigamist father who killed himself in a car accident.

As far as his work environment... he spent most of his political career in Chicago-- the most notoriously corrupt political environment in the country. How many politicians have ascended to the executive level directly from big-city politics? Doesn't that strike anyone as odd? Especially given that the big city involved is just about the most corrupt in america? (I discount the few years in the US Senate as he treated it basically as a waiting room for a presidential bid)

Conclusion: I simply cannot believe anybody is even the tiniest bit surprised at the results of electing this man president. All the signs were there, clear as day.

As far as arguing whether McCain would be better or worse... well what's the point of that??? By applying the same 3 rules above to him, you could see he would make a terrible president as well. But I think the one thing you can say is that Obama represents much more of a danger to this country in that he is such a complete outlier. Look at his weird family background, his weird associations, his very unusual pre-presidential political background.

The more I see of Obama in office, the more terrified I am for my country.

[Ann]

Re: News of the Weird: June 10, 2009 - Eric Janszen

Politicians are masters of the art of illusion. They are-- at best-- confidence artists. They are, at worst, sociopaths. Incidentally, if you look at the clinical definition of a sociopath, the defining characteristics are almost identical to that of your garden-variety politician.

How does one properly evaluate a con artist? When you know they make their living mixing lies and the truth, how do you sort out the truth?

Rule 1: NEVER listen to what they say. Instead, look at what they DO.

Obama's track record in Illinois was clear to anyone who had eyes to see. He was socialist, bordering on marxist.

Rule 2: Carefully examine who they associate with.

Again-- the warning signs were there for anyone who bothered to look. One the one hand, you had clear associations with extremely dubious personalities from the revolutionary left (William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright), on the other hand, you had traditional liberal power brokers (the Harvard crowd, the Wall Street crowd who gave him a gigantic amount of campaign financing). At best, this indicates that he is a very confused about his own identity. At worst, it indicates a highly unstable personality, possibly someone who has multiple personalities.

Rule 3: Carefully examine the family and work environment for clues.

Well his family situation was about as big a mess as you could imagine. Crazy hippie mother who dragged him all over the world, and an alcoholic bigamist father who killed himself in a car accident.

As far as his work environment... he spent most of his political career in Chicago-- the most notoriously corrupt political environment in the country. How many politicians have ascended to the executive level directly from big-city politics? Doesn't that strike anyone as odd? Especially given that the big city involved is just about the most corrupt in america? (I discount the few years in the US Senate as he treated it basically as a waiting room for a presidential bid)

Conclusion: I simply cannot believe anybody is even the tiniest bit surprised at the results of electing this man president. All the signs were there, clear as day.

As far as arguing whether McCain would be better or worse... well what's the point of that??? By applying the same 3 rules above to him, you could see he would make a terrible president as well. But I think the one thing you can say is that Obama represents much more of a danger to this country in that he is such a complete outlier. Look at his weird family background, his weird associations, his very unusual pre-presidential political background.

The more I see of Obama in office, the more terrified I am for my country.

Thank God for Winston Churchill, the alcoholic manic-depressive.

[Andreuccio]

Re: News of the Weird: June 10, 2009 - Eric Janszen

thanks, big. human translation always beats machines. that settles it for me.

Well, that makes me feel a bit better.

[Andreuccio]

Re: News of the Weird: June 10, 2009 - Eric Janszen

world press scooped by sapiens!

If I remember correctly, he was a day or two ahead of the US press on the Swine Flu thing, too.

[Adeptus]

Re: News of the Weird: June 10, 2009 - Eric Janszen

5 minute multi-theory ramble on Youtube about the 134 Billion smuggle...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWIkzahIP2I

[ThePythonicCow]

Re: News of the Weird: June 10, 2009 - Eric Janszen

Thank God for Winston Churchill, the alcoholic manic-depressive.

Find out what Churchill drank and send a barrel of it to each of the other world leaders! (Adapted from Abe Lincoln's remark concerning General Ulysses S. Grant.)

[Jay]

Re: News of the Weird: June 10, 2009 - Eric Janszen

If I remember correctly, he was a day or two ahead of the US press on the Swine Flu thing, too.

I'm pretty sure the guidestones were his work too (and that's only partially tongue-in-cheek ;)):

[Tybee Island]

Re: News of the Weird: June 10, 2009 - Eric Janszen

I believe the Germans are saying that the bonds are indeed authentic.

Trying to get additional verification.

http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/articl...wohl-echt.html


http://www.handelsblatt.com/journal/...h-echt;2355175

[FRED]

Re: News of the Weird: June 10, 2009 - Eric Janszen

I believe the Germans are saying that the bonds are indeed authentic.

Trying to get additional verification.

http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/articl...wohl-echt.html


http://www.handelsblatt.com/journal/...h-echt;2355175

The contraband securities valued at 134 billion U.S. dollars are apparently real. The Italian financial police had two Japanese caught in the false bottom suitcase billion-dollar bonds in Switzerland wanted to create. The Fund benefited from the Heavily Italy.

At least part of the bonds worth 96 billion euros, the two men on the Italian border into Switzerland smuggle wanted, is probably real.

It said a representative of the Italian financial police Como on Saturday. Among the finds are ten so-called Kennedy-bonds to one billion dollars (715 million euros) and 249 U.S. government bonds with a nominal value of 500 million U.S. dollars each (about 358 million euros).

The tax collectors had the valuable papers on 3 June in the double bottom of a suitcase was discovered. The train traveling towards Switzerland owners - the information after two Japanese over 50 - were arrested on a provisional basis.

"As to the authenticity of the Kennedy-Bonds is concerned, we still have doubts, but the U.S. government bonds worth some 358 million euros seem credible. They are made of filigree paper of excellent quality," said Colonel Rodolfo Mecarelli. Moreover, the papers an extensive Bank in the original documentation.

The examination of the securities has not yet been completed. The Guardia di Finanza "investigating together with the American secret service. Mecarelli According to the Italian customs so far counterfeit securities with up to a billion dollars worth aufgestöbert.

The huge smuggling scandal could prove to be unexpected cash injection for the indebted Italy out: If the authenticity of the securities threaten the smugglers high penalties, because it is prohibited, amounts in excess of 10,000 euros in non-EU countries which are without them at customs indicated. The state is expected to 40 percent of the total seized keep: These would be approximately 38.5 billion euros.

[Chomsky]

Re: News of the Weird: June 10, 2009 - Eric Janszen

The contraband securities valued at 134 billion U.S. dollars are apparently real. The Italian financial police had two Japanese caught in the false bottom suitcase billion-dollar bonds in Switzerland wanted to create. The Fund benefited from the Heavily Italy.

At least part of the bonds worth 96 billion euros, the two men on the Italian border into Switzerland smuggle wanted, is probably real.

It said a representative of the Italian financial police Como on Saturday. Among the finds are ten so-called Kennedy-bonds to one billion dollars (715 million euros) and 249 U.S. government bonds with a nominal value of 500 million U.S. dollars each (about 358 million euros).

The tax collectors had the valuable papers on 3 June in the double bottom of a suitcase was discovered. The train traveling towards Switzerland owners - the information after two Japanese over 50 - were arrested on a provisional basis.

"As to the authenticity of the Kennedy-Bonds is concerned, we still have doubts, but the U.S. government bonds worth some 358 million euros seem credible. They are made of filigree paper of excellent quality," said Colonel Rodolfo Mecarelli. Moreover, the papers an extensive Bank in the original documentation.

The examination of the securities has not yet been completed. The Guardia di Finanza "investigating together with the American secret service. Mecarelli According to the Italian customs so far counterfeit securities with up to a billion dollars worth aufgestöbert.

The huge smuggling scandal could prove to be unexpected cash injection for the indebted Italy out: If the authenticity of the securities threaten the smugglers high penalties, because it is prohibited, amounts in excess of 10,000 euros in non-EU countries which are without them at customs indicated. The state is expected to 40 percent of the total seized keep: These would be approximately 38.5 billion euros.

Uh, you might want to go back and edit the above. Syntax errors abound. (babelfish uncorrected?)

[FRED]

Re: News of the Weird: June 10, 2009 - Eric Janszen

Uh, you might want to go back and edit the above. Syntax errors abound. (babelfish uncorrected?)

We prefer google translate. Left the errors in on purpose.

[jtabeb]

Re: News of the Weird: June 10, 2009 - Eric Janszen

Wasn't Don Johnson caught with $8 billion of the same (or similiar) crossing the Swiss border a few years ago?

Very quick "googled" link to said news item


Sounds like fraud racketeering (money laundering) to me.

NO, this SOUNDS EXACTLY like a CIA dis-information operation.

[grandcru]

Re: News of the Weird: June 10, 2009 - Eric Janszen

I believe the Germans are saying that the bonds are indeed authentic.

Trying to get additional verification.

http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/articl...wohl-echt.html


http://www.handelsblatt.com/journal/...h-echt;2355175

yes the german `handelsblatt`(similar to WSJ) quotes from their sources that the bonds are real beside the kennedy bonds are fake.

greetings from germany