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  • The alternate view: Confessions of a Wall Street Nihilist

    Definitely thought provoking...

    http://exiledonline.com/confessions-...ud/#more-21367

    There was a strange moment last week during President Obama’s speech at Cooper Union. There he was, groveling before a cast of Wall Street villains including Goldman Sachs chief Lloyd Blankfein, begging them to “Look into your heart!” like John Turturro’s character in Miller’s Crossing…when out of the blue, the POTUS dropped this bombshell:

    “The only people who ought to fear the kind of oversight and transparency that we’re proposing are those whose conduct will fail this scrutiny.”

    The Big Secret, of course, is that every living creature within a 100-mile radius of Cooper Union would fail “this scrutiny”—or that scrutiny, or any scrutiny, period. Not just in a 100-mile radius, but wherever there are still signs of economic life beating in these 50 United States, the mere whiff of scrutiny would work like nerve gas on what’s left of the economy. Because in the 21st century, fraud is as American as baseball, apple pie and Chevrolet Volts—fraud’s all we got left, Doc. Scare off the fraud with Obama’s “scrutiny,” and the entire pyramid scheme collapses in a heap of smoldering savings accounts.

    That’s how an acquaintance of mine, a partner in a private equity firm, put it: “Whoever pops this fraud bubble is going to have to escape on the next flight out, faster than the Bin Laden Bunch fled Kentucky in their chartered jets after 9/11.”

    And that’s why this SEC suit accusing Goldman Sachs of fraud is really just a negotiating bluff to give Obama’s people some leverage—or it’s supposed to be, anyway—according to the PE guy. He dismissed all the speculation that the fraud investigations would turn on other obvious villains like Deutsche, Merrill, Paulson & Co., the Rahm Emmanuel-linked Magnetar and so on.

    “You don’t get it, Ames. Even Khuzami, the SEC guy in charge of the Goldman case, is a fraud; the fucker was Deutsche’s general counsel when they pulled the same CDO scam as Goldman. You have no idea how deep this goes.”
    And it’s clear that a lot more people here are aware of how fundamentally rotten things are but they’re not willing to face the big fraudonomics bummer yet, preferring instead to stick with specific accusations.

    My position on this was, “Good, throw the book at those crooks too, I don’t see what the problem is here.”

    This was exactly what I argued a week ago, during a verbal slapfight with that acquaintance of mine. We were making a scene in a Midtown yuppie restaurant, arguing over just how much damage Wall Street had caused, and what to do about it.

    His position was indefensible, and he knew it, so he switched tactics:

    “OK Ames, which bankers would you throw the book at? Because you’re arguing that they’re all guilty. So which ones do you go after? Two of them? Three? Half of them?”

    “Every last one of them. Lock ’em up in one of their private prisons.”

    “Not gonna happen, Che.”

    Che? Me? Listen, Scarface, I’m about law and order. Don’t any of you PE degenerates believe in that anymore?”

    “OK, here’s the deal, Che. I’m going to walk you through this nice and slow so that even an agave-sweetened hippie like you can understand this. Stick with me, this is gonna be a little complicated. Ready?” And so he began.

    “Let’s say the government decides one day, ‘You know, we oughta listen to Che here, let’s throw the book at every firm and every executive that our people can make a case against. Because you know, gosh, it’s all about rule of law and blind justice, just like Che says.’ OK, so now this means indicting just about every serious player in finance, so they take down Goldman Sachs, they take down Citigroup, JP Morgan, BofA… and they also serve all the big funds who are at least as guilty, if not more. So they shut down Pimco, Blackrock, Citadel… maybe they indict Geithner and Summers, haul in some of Bush’s crooks… right?”

    “Too bad they don’t serve popcorn here, this is getting good.”

    “OK, now guess what you’ve just done? You’ve just caused the markets to completely tank. Remember what happened after the Lehman collapse? Remember how popular that made every politician in Washington? Still wondering why they coughed up a trillion bucks? They were scared for their lives; that’s why they voted for that bailout. You’d have done the same goddamn thing. But if we go after everyone guilty of fraud and theft, the market crash this country would see would make 2008 look like Sesame Street. Open that can of worms labeled ‘Fraud’ and the whole ******* economy collapses. You may as well prosecute people for masturbating. No one will know where the fraud investigation stops and who will be charged next—everyone will try to cash out, and the markets will tank to zero. And guess what happens when the markets tank to zero? Every ******* American with a retirement plan, or an investment portfolio, or a 401k—every state pension plan in the country, every teacher’s pension fund, every fireman’s pension—every last one of them will be wiped out. That’s what the Lehman collapse taught us.”

    “Us? It didn’t teach anything but that this country is run by maniacs.”

    “Jesus H. Christ, Ames– you’re even more clueless than the idiots who managed the Lehman collapse. I mean, didn’t everyone get it how badly those idiots screwed up with Lehman? It was the biggest screw-up this hemisphere has ever seen. You had Secretary Paulson and Fed Chief Bernanke scratching their asses not knowing what to do, so then they go, ‘OK, we’re supposed to be a free market economy, and we’re supposed to be the Republicans—let’s try something different for a change since nothing else is working. Let’s go out on a limb and actually give this “free market” thing a whirl. Who knows? Maybe the “free market” really works the way we always say it does. Nothing else seems to work, let’s let the free market decide Lehman’s fate. Maybe corporate-socialism isn’t the answer.’ So they hung Lehman out in the free-market, and BAM! The. Shit. Hit. The. Fan. No shit, dudes—the free market is for suckers, didn’t your daddy teach you idiots that? Not only did Lehman collapse—everything collapsed; confidence in the entire system collapsed. And here’s what I’m trying to explain to simpletons like you: Our economy is just a confidence game. Don’t ask me how it got this way, don’t care.”

    I tried saying something insulting to him, but he just talked right over me, lurching forward baring his laser-whitened teeth.

    “I’m sure you have the answer, you and Ron Paul and all the other pot-smoking libertarian do-gooders have it all figured out. But what I’m saying is, no confidence means end of the confidence game. That’s what Lehman showed. Every single player in finance suddenly had to face the fundamental problem—this whole ******* economy is built on fraud and lies and garbage. So when Lehman collapsed, every single player panicked, going, ‘If Lehman was nothing but a Ponzi scheme—and I know what I’m running is a Ponzi scheme—holy shit, that means everyone else is running a Ponzi scheme too! Run for the exits!’ No one trusted anyone else, everyone pulled out, and the entire global economy collapsed just like that. And that meant your parents, my parents, every teacher, every fireman, every person in the country going into retirement, every price on every asset—wiped out.

    “And here’s what I’m trying to get you to understand: In the grown-up world, when an entire country’s savings accounts are wiped out because of some do-gooder and his law books and his Thomas Jefferson ‘What about free and fair markets?’ crap, that is a big problem—people don’t give a fuck about Jefferson and ‘free and fair markets,’ they just want their savings to be worth something. And people are right: Jefferson was an imbecile. He should have been a folk singer, not a Founding ******* Father. But that’s another issue that’s over your head—the point is, the guy who destroys this economy because it’s ‘the right thing to do’ will have to flee for his life, and whatever president or political party was in power when that decision was made will be out of power for the next 200 years. That’s why Washington panicked and passed ‘the bailout,’ they didn’t want to be the fools whom all the Ponzi victims blame for tanking the Ponzi scheme, so they broke the glass and pumped up a newer, bigger Ponzi scheme. It was an expensive 14 trillion dollar lesson in, ‘Stay the fuck away from free-market experiments, assholes!’ How naive are you people to actually believe that ‘free market’ crap? The problem is when people in power are stupid enough to listen to guys like you: all the do-gooder libertarians and the do-gooder free-market Republicans who forgot that they’re supposed to lie. Hello!”

    “Libertarian, me? Since when was I ever a libertarian?”

    “That’s my point: Fools like you don’t even know who you are anymore. They forgot that they’re supposed to lie about all that libertarian free-market shit, keep it far the fuck out of policy. But instead of just lying about free-markets while secretly propping up Lehman, the idiots actually tried pulling off a ‘free-market’ miracle, and we had to pay $14 trillion just to find out what I could have told them for no fee at all, which is: ‘Hey, assholes, you’re supposed to be hypocrites, OK? You’re supposed to be two-faced free-market liars, not libertarian Quakers! You’re not supposed to believe in anything—your job is to get up in front of the public and lie about free markets and the rest. Period.’

    “That’s it, how ******* hard is it? Look, watch my face: Say one thing out of one side… and do the other out of the other side. Got that? Let everyone else whine and cry about, ‘Ooh, that’s not fair, ooh, that’s a bailout, that’s socialism, that’s corruption.’ That’s what losers do—they whine. You, for example, Che—you whine all the time, and look at you… Can you pay the bill for this meal? Is there a libertarian on earth who can afford to buy a decent meal in Manhattan? And now, look at me: I’m a hypocrite. Hell yes I am! I lie every day of my life, I lie to myself in my sleep. Hell, I’m lying to you right now, in fact I don’t even know what the fuck I’m saying anymore because I’m so used to lying. And yet—who’s the guy with the black card? Who’s the one who’s going to pick up the check tonight? Guys with power, guys like me, we lie. You got that? ‘Lie’ as in ‘My Lai’ the massacre—as in, ‘My Lai you long time, me so free-markety.’ You distract the dumbshits with free-market B.S. because hey, for whatever reason, that’s what the public likes to hear, it doesn’t really matter what lie you feed them so long as it’s the lie that puts them in a trance. And then behind the scenes, you do the very opposite: You fix the game, you cover up this problem here with those funds there, you move shit around, you skim budgets and you subsidize the system, you cover up the bad shit and once in a while throw a has-been to the wolves to keep the public entertained—that’s the way the system works, and anyone who’s an adult understands that. And everyone who doesn’t understand that can go form an online libertarian chat group and complain with all their little libertarian friends about free markets and Jekyll Island and ‘Wahhh! It’s not not fair, waahhhh!’”

    “What’s with the libertarian accusation?”

    “It’s just that you all sound the same to me. Libertarians, hippies—is there really a difference? You all whine alike: ‘It’s not fair, man! Ooh! You can’t do that, it’s fraud, it’s corruption, ooh no!’ Or: ‘It’s the income inequality, man; Goldman Sachs controls us all man; it’s socialism for the rich; it’s all too scary for my retarded 5-year-old libertarian brain!’ Seriously, anytime I meet libertarians like you—”

    “Listen—I’m not a ******* libertarian, OK? I want free handouts. How clear do I have to make this? Me—handouts. Me—Big Government. I want to collectivize your productive cash, because I am a resentful parasite. Are you capable of processing a single word of what I’m saying to you, Spaz?”

    “Uh-huh, sure, whatever. Here’s the thing: I think it’s great that you and your friends memorized Road to Serfdom in between Star Trek episodes—no really, I’m happy for you. Yeah, we’re all so proud. But here’s the thing: We grown-ups are really, really busy now trying to sort out the free-market mess you made with that Lehman move of yours. Yeah, so why don’t you run along to your libertarian chat rooms and have your little debates about Jekyll Island and the gold standard, because it really means a lot to us. And report back to me as soon as you have it all figured out, m’kay? Just get the fuck out of my face and leave the adults alone.”

    It got a lot more vicious and personal than this, but when our verbal slap-fight ended—and he paid the bill—I thought about what he said, and it made a lot more sense. Fraud has become so endemic in this country that it’s woven its way into America’s DNA, forming a symbiotic relationship that can’t be undone without killing off the host. If they push it just a little too hard, the entire American economy could crash, asset values could tank, and that means tens of millions of extremely pissed off retirees and Baby Boomers.

    As the Wall Streeter put it: “Whoever is responsible for bursting this latest bubble by exposing all the fraud—and tanking all the markets—will not only be out of power for at least a generation, but they’ll all have to get radical reconstructive surgery on their faces and seek political asylum somewhere remote. No one wants to be that guy, and that’s why it’s not going to happen.”

    That may be true, but all bubbles to eventually burst, all Ponzi schemes do collapse. The only question is when. For those of us not on the verge of retiring, the sooner we have this day of reckoning and get it over with, the better.

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    Re: The alternate view: Confessions of a Wall Street Nihilist

    Things got a bit out of hand in other declining empires as well....


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      Re: The alternate view: Confessions of a Wall Street Nihilist

      Flagged as inaccurate, anyone who believes that a free market or libertarianism exists in america has some sort of cognitive dissonance.

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        Re: The alternate view: Confessions of a Wall Street Nihilist

        Nihilist is too soft a word here. Somebody talk me down quick.

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          Re: The alternate view: Confessions of a Wall Street Nihilist

          Originally posted by chr5648 View Post
          Flagged as inaccurate, anyone who believes that a free market or libertarianism exists in america has some sort of cognitive dissonance.
          These fantasy ideologies can only exist under the umbrella of empire, however tattered it may be.

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            Re: The alternate view: Confessions of a Wall Street Nihilist

            Originally posted by chr5648
            Flagged as inaccurate, anyone who believes that a free market or libertarianism exists in america has some sort of cognitive dissonance.
            There is no way, of course, to tell if this is true or not.

            However, from Mark Ames' history as a journalist as well as his personal beliefs, I have full confidence in this story being true to his understanding.

            This as someone who has followed Mr. Ames' work for more than a decade.

            Originally posted by cjppc
            Nihilist is too soft a word here. Somebody talk me down quick.
            Perhaps so, but ultimately the monetarists' view is quite consistent with the attitude and world view encapsulated above.

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              Re: The alternate view: Confessions of a Wall Street Nihilist

              It's irrelevant whether this conversation took place or not, for the piece is designed to create a narrative that convinces readers that we have no alternative other than to play their game and by their fraudulent rules, otherwise we will all go to zero. Hence, it's better to play the fraud game and take the risk that one will go to zero, rather than definitely hitting zero now.

              It's quite ironic that at the same time I saw this thread I also stumbled upon the The Next Phase of the Financial Crisis thread, which started with the following quote:

              "The 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy."

              Alex Carey
              I view this article as nothing more than state-corporate propaganda, designed to keep us in the game, no matter how dysfunctional that game. Well, it's my opinion that we bail on their game, because the only certainty is that anyone playing in their game will ultimately lose. This country has created systems with checks and balances before, where this level of egregious fraud risked real repercussions. There is no reason why we cannot implement this again, and kick these bums to the gutter.

              Oh, and by the way, not everyone who wants a system with real checks and balance is a Tea Party - Ron Paul - Libertarian nutcase. I found those references in the article, and the framing of law abiding hard working people, quite interesting and quite propagandistic. I guess people that want the rule of law over the rule of men are now supposed to be the crazy people in society. How sociopathic of them.
              The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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                Re: The alternate view: Confessions of a Wall Street Nihilist

                I wrote this yesterday in the Questions for William Black thread:

                ...Has the system evolved such that implementing the rule of law would ultimately cause a severe crash with extreme unintended consequences? I mention this view because that's what I believe the Hank Paulson initial reaction and subsequent actions are based on. This was best summarized by George Bush's: "This sucker could go down." Obviously, if a system is that precarious and subject to extreme collapse - there is something inherently wrong with it.

                Basically, what I am describing is the philosophical/legal view that I think elites privately fear:

                Fiat justitia ruat caelum - Let justice be done though the heavens fall
                The OP story, regardless of actually taking place or not - may illustrate a very real threat. I'm begining to lean towards that view.

                The best metaphor I can come up with is this: An old car, held together by rust, running on the same fluids for 30K miles, should not be messed with all at once if you intend to keep driving it every day.

                But you can't ignore the problems either - because it's a guarantee it will breakdown on you. Obviously, you can't stop using the car - if it's the only one you have. Thus, you work on it piecemeal. That's the only option we have today, unlike the Great Depression.

                The initial years of the Great Depression were so catastrophic that the Banksters themselves were paralyzed. Turns out, that was a good thing. Solid regulations like Glass-Steagall and inquiries like PECORA were able to be held without the moneyed political resistance we see today.

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                  Re: The alternate view: Confessions of a Wall Street Nihilist

                  Originally posted by gnk View Post
                  The OP story, regardless of actually taking place or not - may illustrate a very real threat. I'm begining to lean towards that view.
                  I have no reason to buy into this narrative, especially given the fact that it is coming from the same sources who perpetrated the crimes.

                  In any event, if we're supposed to somehow buy into the fact that the the system will self-destruct if we simply impose the rule of law, then I think it is only fair for Wall Street to prove this assertion under the scrutiny of public debate.

                  Further, if the public is supposed to dismiss the rule of law and allow the existing financial system to continue relatively unabated, then does the public not become complicit in the crimes themselves? If we move down this slippery slope, what rules of law do we follow going forward? Or, are we agreeing right here, right now, that the rule of law is for the dustbin of history and we all agree that we are moving forward under the rules of men.
                  The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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                    Re: The alternate view: Confessions of a Wall Street Nihilist

                    Originally posted by reggie View Post
                    I have no reason to buy into this narrative, especially given the fact that it is coming from the same sources who perpetrated the crimes.

                    In any event, if we're supposed to somehow buy into the fact that the the system will self-destruct if we simply impose the rule of law, then I think it is only fair for Wall Street to prove this assertion under the scrutiny of public debate.

                    Further, if the public is supposed to dismiss the rule of law and allow the existing financial system to continue relatively unabated, then does the public not become complicit in the crimes themselves? If we move down this slippery slope, what rules of law do we follow going forward? Or, are we agreeing right here, right now, that the rule of law is for the dustbin of history and we all agree that we are moving forward under the rules of men.

                    I'll say it again - Fiat justitia ruat caelum - Let justice be done though the heavens fall - that's what we might be dealing with.

                    This expression has some truth. Imagine the rot you seek is embedded in the Treasury dept, the Federal Reserve, the White House, etc...

                    Uncover enough stones, and this could make Watergate look like child's play.

                    I have not made up my mind yet - and the veracity of the above narrative is irrelevant. As I said, I had these troublesome opinions before I read that story today. I wrote my congressman and Senators months ago about the Audit the Fed bill. I was queasy nonetheless and part of me doesn't want it to succeed.

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                      Re: The alternate view: Confessions of a Wall Street Nihilist

                      Originally posted by gnk View Post
                      I'll say it again - Fiat justitia ruat caelum - Let justice be done though the heavens fall - that's what we might be dealing with.

                      This expression has some truth. Imagine the rot you seek is embedded in the Treasury dept, the Federal Reserve, the White House, etc...

                      Uncover enough stones, and this could make Watergate look like child's play.

                      I have not made up my mind yet - and the veracity of the above narrative is irrelevant. As I said, I had these troublesome opinions before I read that story today. I wrote my congressman and Senators months ago about the Audit the Fed bill. I was queasy nonetheless and part of me doesn't want it to succeed.
                      The above narrative is relevant in that it is an obvious propagandistic attempt to frame the discussion and the thinking of the public, that is precisely why it was published.

                      I agree that justice must be realized regardless of consequences. I think that is a given.

                      However, I do not buy into the narrative, and that is that the heavens will fall if the public demands justice. As I said, the narrative is propaganda, designed to establish fear in the minds of the public, in an effort to keep them from pursuing law and order.
                      The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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                        Re: The alternate view: Confessions of a Wall Street Nihilist

                        Gentlemen and ladies, this is not about the US not about Europe not about China or developing nations. Step back an see the forest.
                        We all are intertwined in every way. I repeat every way.
                        Where their is money and profit there is Corruption, Lies and Greed -That much of the story holds true because it was ever so.
                        What we have here, what we all agree on - is a Basket full of bombs, all live under their respective fuses. There is no point to stick your head in the sand, nor can you run away. Now is not the time to argue about anything. Time remains to defuse each and every bomb by priority of worst case, most urgent, first. If you say it can't be done then step away and let the others do the work while you remain silent, you have vacated your right to say anything more.
                        Those that constructed the mess must be forced to undo it bit by careful bit. They know its intricacy's and how it works. It will take time it will take a focused effort and there will be failures. Every person (even my brain challenged brother) recognizes we must act while time remains.
                        If our Leaders prove to be frail or too indebted to act then stand them aside. Strip out the rotten wood, strengthen Structural weakness and you will find good steel beneath the rust. The system works just fine when it works its just preventative maintenance has been sadly lacking.
                        If you are of the thought the whole damn system should be crashed, total demolition then where will you live and how. No that has never been an answer to anything and such utterances are bullshit basted in bravado. Tea Parties be damned they will break down because non can agree - their just angry, misguided and without plan.
                        You may say to me 'then whats the answer bigmouth, how do we fix it" Well the short answer is I don't know simply because the project is to large. But that has never fazed me ever because when I build I know to build with a plan on a strong foundation, square and true. One job at a time until that job is completed. The fear I feel is the fear of inaction and its subsequent result. This must never happen - you have all the time you need under Heaven

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                          Re: The alternate view: Confessions of a Wall Street Nihilist

                          I think there has to be major upheaval for it to change. The current zeitgeist has to lose all credibility and topple to make room for new building with stronger foundations. Don't know what they are either, but I sure hope we're past the whole blind self interest thing.

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                            Re: The alternate view: Confessions of a Wall Street Nihilist

                            As I said, the narrative is propaganda, designed to establish fear in the minds of the public, in an effort to keep them from pursuing law and order.
                            Well said. Of course it is propaganda. You dismantle the corruption piece by piece, not all at once. You go after individuals. Their personal assets. You use one snake against the other. You never get them all but a few examples will go a long way toward producing a chilling effect on the whole scam. The same way most crimes are deterred. There is always someone standing in line to fill their shoes. This idea that they will just all take their ball and go home is a joke. Take it where? Probably a bad example, but more than one banker or Industrialist who felt they had the power to knock heads with Hitler in WWII found themselves under arrest. The rest then fell right in line.

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                              Re: The alternate view: Confessions of a Wall Street Nihilist

                              bravo, I want you on the team!

                              The whole system cannot come apart. Otherwise us I-tulipers will be scounging for food, and guarding our gold with one eye open at night. sh*tty way to live isn't it. billions will starve. We have to try to fix what we have.

                              oh and by the way the fix will be hard. one application of medicine is not going to do it. the system took generations to build. It will take generations to fix. We cannot let up.
                              Last edited by charliebrown; April 30, 2010, 07:34 AM.

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