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  • Northsea oil/GAS running out..........

    This might be dressed as something else but its a lack of Northsea GAS:-

    Grangemouth owners Ineos to close petrochemical site

    Part of the giant Grangemouth site is to close following a bitter row between Ineos and unions over pay and conditions, while the fate of the adjacent oil refinery hangs in the balance

    The company had been locked in a bitter dispute with union Unite over plans to change staff working conditions to make the business more competitive, including cutting retirement benefits to address a £200m pension deficit. Photo: GETTY IMAGES






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    By Alistair Osborne, Business Editor

    10:26AM BST 23 Oct 2013
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    Ineos has told workers it will close its Grangemouth petro-chemicals plant after they refused to sign up to a cost-cutting plan deemed vital for its survival.


    Callum MacLean, Grangemouth Petrochemicals chairman, told a meeting of about 700 workers at the Scottish plant that the Swiss-based company could no longer support a business that it claims is losing £10m a month. Ineos said it will appoint liquidators to the business within a week.

    The decision is certain to provoke a furious backlash from the unions and the Scottish government, which in recent days have been lobbying Ineos to come back to the negotiating table to save the plant.


    The privately-owned Ineos, which is majority controlled by founder and chairman Jim Ratcliffe, took the decision last night after a meeting of its shareholders – just a handful of individuals.

    While the closure verdict initially only affects the chemicals plant, the decision puts the jobs of all 1,350 workers at Grangemouth at risk.

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    Mr Ratcliffe has warned that the closure of the petrochemical unit could be followed by a shutdown of the adjacent refinery, operated in partnership with Petro-China, which provides 80pc of Scotland’s fuel.

    Calum MacLean, Grangemouth Petrochemicals chairman, said: “This is a hugely sad day for everyone at Grangemouth. We have tried our hardest to convince employees of the need for change but unsuccessfully. There was only ever going to be one outcome to this story if nothing changed and we continued to lose money”.

    Ineos maintains that the plant is losing £150m a year and needs £300m of investment in new terminal facilities to ship in cheap ethane from the US to replace declining North Sea feedstocks.

    It wanted a deal with Unite to change staff working conditions to make the business more competitive, including closing its final salary retirement scheme to address a £200m pension deficit.
    It had set a deadline of 6pm on Monday for workers to sign up to the “survival plan”, which include a £15,000 sweetner and a no-strike pledge, or see the site closed down.

    In a statement, Ineos said this morning: “Following the breakdown of the ACAS talks last week and Unite’s refusal to provide a no strike guarantee, the company decided to approach the employees direct.

    “Employees were asked to support the changes necessary to save the business. Management held direct meetings with all employees to explain the very serious nature of the problem.
    “The company made it clear that rejection of change would result in closure. Regrettably, the union advised union members to reject any form of change.

    “The outcome of the employee vote on the company’s Survival Plan was a 50/50 split. Within this, almost all of the administrative staff voted for the company’s plan but a large majority of shop floor employees voted to reject it.”

    It added that the shareholders met on Tuesday “to consider the future of the business following the result of the employee vote. Sadly, the shareholders reached the conclusion that they could not see a future for Grangemouth without change and therefore could no longer continue to fund the business.”

    The company added: “As a result of this decision, the directors of the petrochemicals business have had no option but to engage the services of a liquidator. It is anticipated that a liquidation process will commence in a week.”

    The firm said a decision on whether to restart production at the oil refinery will depend on the removal of the threat of further industrial action.

    Mr MacLean added: “We still struggle to comprehend what has happened here. The employees were offered a chance to secure substantial new investment in the company, preserve their jobs and keep their salaries. Sadly this will no longer be the case.”

    Energy Secretary Edward Davey urged the two sides to re-start talks and said the Government would help with that. “I am saddened to hear of Ineos's plans to place petrochemicals business into administration, particularly because of the impact it will have on the workforce and local community," he said.

    “While respecting Ineos's right to make this decision, it is regrettable that both parties have not managed to negotiate a fair and equitable settlement that delivers a viable business model for the plant.

    “Even at this late stage, I urge Ineos to continue dialogue with the workforce, and Government will offer help and support with this."

    The closure of the plant is also likely to prove a test-case for the clout of the Scottish Government. Ministers and Ineos clashed on Tuesday over the financial health of the site and whether a new buyer could take over the business.

    Gerry Hepburn, chief financial officer of Ineos Chemicals Grangemouth, took issue with suggestions from SNP finance minister John Swinney that it was “completely inappropriate” to call the plant “distressed” and that alternative buyers could be found.

    Mr Swinney insisted Grangemouth was a “strong industrial plant”, adding that the Scottish government was “looking at alternative options and there will be other players around the globe who will be interested”. He ruled out nationalisation.

    Mr Hepburn said the Scottish government had not informed Ineos that it had been sounding out buyers. “There’s not anyone obvious I can think of,” he said. “It’s an interesting suggestion but we haven’t really formed a view on whether that’s likely to come to anything. If they want to talk to us they can.”

    He stressed, however: “The issue is we are making a loss. It’s difficult to see, when you have a business making losses and requiring a high level of investment, who would want to buy it.”

  • #2
    Re: Northsea oil/GAS running out..........

    Grangemouth is a commodity chemicals plant. It has two ethylene crackers, one of which can use either a gas or liquid feed (ethane, propane or naptha) and one which can only use gas. The ethylene that is produced is a fungible commodity, and these sorts of petrochemical plants are DEEP cyclical businesses that compete worldwide on manufacturing cost (the ethylene produced is the same stuff everyone else produces).

    With a world economy that has not really recovered from the financial crisis, the European economy mostly in the toilet, global growth slowing, Chinese petrochemical capacity installed in the last 20 years competing with high cost European suppliers, ethane and propane supply coming from the extraction processes upstream of a growing number of Middle East and Asia LNG plants, and now the USA and Canada becoming the cheapest place on earth for gas (ethane and propane) energy supply, it means that Grangemouth ethylene is too expensive in a very price sensitive industry. The loss of some local gas supply from the North Sea means having to import feedstock for the plant, and that means they have to take that extra cost out somewhere in the manufacturing process because they cannot raise the price of their output commodity chemical product or their customers will just buy it from somewhere else.

    The commodity petrochemical business is brutal. Makes good money at the top of the business cycle and loses money for everyone but the very lowest cost producers at the bottom of the cycle. Every time. What is happening now is that lower cost capacity is being installed in the USA and higher cost capacity is being knocked out elsewhere...including China which also has to import some of its feedstock.

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    • #3
      Re: Northsea oil/GAS running out..........

      Agreed!

      UK petrochemicals industry is a lame duck

      Petrochemical production as a major industry in the UK is finished, that much is clear from the closure of the Ineos plant in Grangemouth.

      The brutal fact is that Britain has no place in today's world operating old world businesses that turn ethane extracted from gas into bulk industrial materials such as poly-ethylene and poly-propylene. Photo: JEFF J MITCHELL/GETTY IMAGES






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      By Andrew Critchlow

      12:24PM BST 23 Oct 2013

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      The surprise is that it has hung on for this long since the writing was on the wall back when the world’s largest chemical maker Saudi Basic Industries Corporation (Sabic) in 2006 bought the declining plants at Teeside and Wilton from Imperial Chemical Industries (ICI).


      Once the world’s largest manufacturing company, ICI’s demise was as much due to the simple economics of no longer being able to compete globally by turning cheap raw materials into high-value chemicals as it was about the decline of British imperial power, which had helped to feed the company’s production plants with low-cost feed stocks for half a century.


      The brutal fact is that Britain has no place in today's world operating old world businesses that turn ethane extracted from gas into bulk industrial materials such as poly-ethylene and poly-propylene.


      Petrochemical production is an industry that depends on economy of scale, the availability of cheap feedstock and and a plentiful supply of competitive labor and in all cases Britain is deficient.


      Giant plants already operating near Southern China’s industrial city of Chongqing can now transport petrochemicals by a continuous freight railway line direct to factories in Germany. In Saudi Arabia, which can guarantee cheap gas and feedstock due to the kingdom's vast wealth in oil reserves, Sabic is investing up to $70bn (£43bn) through to 2020 on huge industrial petrochemical cities visible from space built on land around Jubail on the Persian Gulf coast and Yanbu near the Red Sea.

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      This isn’t an industrial game that any British-based company can play in never mind hope to win.
      Like the coal industry, petrochemical production in the UK is a legacy of a long and proud industrial heritage that has long since faded into the past.

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      • #4
        Re: Northsea oil/GAS running out..........

        Deader than a tin of Spam....Limey Scum !
        Mike

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        • #5
          Re: Northsea oil/GAS running out..........

          It's a pity that the employees refuse to see facts...and eventually, their union will be unemployed as well as the employees can no longer pay their dues. Definitely not the best of decisions.

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          • #6
            Re: Northsea oil/GAS running out..........

            Originally posted by Forrest View Post
            It's a pity that the employees refuse to see facts...and eventually, their union will be unemployed as well as the employees can no longer pay their dues. Definitely not the best of decisions.
            It is rooted in the mental model that the most important input to the economy, and any subset unit thereof such as an individual business or company, is labour. This is so deeply ingrained in the UK national psyche there is even a major political party there called "Labour" (or is it still being called "New Labour" even after Tony Blair retired?).

            There are only three ways to save any high cost commodity producer anywhere in the world:
            1. Cut the costs;
            2. Have the government (taxpayers) directly subsidize the business in some fashion to compensate for its cost disadvantage (up to and including "nationalizing" it, which is certainly not unheard of...check out the much vaunted "Chinese economic model", or watch what the French government is about to do with their commoditized car manufacturers);
            3 Have the government (consumers) indirectly subsidize the business by erecting tariff or non-tariff barriers to imports of that commodity.

            All a fraught with difficulty. No wonder everyone wants to go into investment banking and do "God's work"...
            Last edited by GRG55; October 23, 2013, 11:20 PM.

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            • #7
              Re: Northsea oil/GAS running out..........

              Update:-
              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...price-10p.html
              As i understand it the company wants £300 million.....it wants £150 million GIVEN to it as a grant.....& it will loan the other £150 million......that is when the British goverment TELLS it banks to loan them the cash as ALL the banks have said NO to them....

              Mike

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              • #8
                Re: Northsea oil/GAS running out..........

                Unions have backed down now.

                http://uk.news.yahoo.com/grangemouth...e.html#sus5bUF

                Probably read the details and thought the owner was being reasonable.

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                • #9
                  Re: Northsea oil/GAS running out..........

                  Originally posted by Techdread View Post
                  Unions have backed down now.

                  http://uk.news.yahoo.com/grangemouth...e.html#sus5bUF

                  Probably read the details and thought the owner was being reasonable.
                  How does this change the fundamentals? Won't it just delay the inevitable?
                  "I love a dog, he does nothing for political reasons." --Will Rogers

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                  • #10
                    Re: Northsea oil/GAS running out..........

                    Originally posted by photon555 View Post
                    How does this change the fundamentals? Won't it just delay the inevitable?
                    Yes...which is the whole point. They do not want to face reality.

                    However, if the Government won't order the banks to lend, and also give a grant, well...reality cometh.

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