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    David Stockman, Reagan's Budget Director, has written a rather scathing piece slamming the Republicans in the NYT...
    Op-Ed Contributor

    Four Deformations of the Apocalypse

    By DAVID STOCKMAN

    Published: July 31, 2010

    IF there were such a thing as Chapter 11 for politicians, the Republican push to extend the unaffordable Bush tax cuts would amount to a bankruptcy filing. The nation’s public debt — if honestly reckoned to include municipal bonds and the $7 trillion of new deficits baked into the cake through 2015 — will soon reach $18 trillion. That’s a Greece-scale 120 percent of gross domestic product, and fairly screams out for austerity and sacrifice. It is therefore unseemly for the Senate minority leader, Mitch McConnell, to insist that the nation’s wealthiest taxpayers be spared even a three-percentage-point rate increase.

    More fundamentally, Mr. McConnell’s stand puts the lie to the Republican pretense that its new monetarist and supply-side doctrines are rooted in its traditional financial philosophy. Republicans used to believe that prosperity depended upon the regular balancing of accounts — in government, in international trade, on the ledgers of central banks and in the financial affairs of private households and businesses, too. But the new catechism, as practiced by Republican policymakers for decades now, has amounted to little more than money printing and deficit finance — vulgar Keynesianism robed in the ideological vestments of the prosperous classes.

    This approach has not simply made a mockery of traditional party ideals. It has also led to the serial financial bubbles and Wall Street depredations that have crippled our economy...

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    Sigh....nice to have some fresh air after all the BS. Where *are* the adults in government these days anyways?

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      Originally posted by jpatter666 View Post
      Sigh....nice to have some fresh air after all the BS. Where *are* the adults in government these days anyways?
      they all wait until they're 25 years out of power before it's safe to say anything sensible. c.f. david "rosie scenario" stockman.

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        Originally posted by jk View Post
        they all wait until they're 25 years out of power before it's safe to say anything sensible. c.f. david "rosie scenario" stockman.
        In other words - they are no longer looking for a job! Until that time they will toe the party line!

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          Originally posted by Rajiv View Post
          In other words - they are no longer looking for a job! Until that time they will toe the party line!
          New confirmation of this thesis.

          http://www.zerohedge.com/article/ala...l-system-broke

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            The only problem with blaming the republicans for Keynesianism is that the democrats engage in it two. So while I have no love for defending the Republicans, I think we are missing 1/2 of the picture here.

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              stockman knowingly lied with his "rosy scenario" while in office, then left to get rich on wall street. now he lectures about political bankruptcy. i guess he's in a position to understand, having gone through moral bankruptcy himself.

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                no doubt.

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                  This is a bit like a thief who has robbed the neighborhood blind, complaining about his fellow thieves who are trying to rob what's left.

                  It's hard to be sympathetic toward someone who helped start the destruction of a society, as he now seeks forgiveness for the irreparable damage he has caused. Nonetheless, his statement about the Bush tax cuts is as true now, as it was when he helped implement the Reagan tax cuts.

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                    Originally posted by we_are_toast View Post
                    This is a bit like a thief who has robbed the neighborhood blind, complaining about his fellow thieves who are trying to rob what's left.

                    It's hard to be sympathetic toward someone who helped start the destruction of a society, as he now seeks forgiveness for the irreparable damage he has caused. Nonetheless, his statement about the Bush tax cuts is as true now, as it was when he helped implement the Reagan tax cuts.
                    as a fiscal conservative, I always wonder why the debate is framed in th idea of tax cuts and tax increases, instead of budgetary cuts and spending accounability? jus' sayin'...

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                      Originally posted by doom&gloom View Post
                      as a fiscal conservative, I always wonder why the debate is framed in th idea of tax cuts and tax increases, instead of budgetary cuts and spending accounability? jus' sayin'...
                      Once it has been established that a sovereign government does not need taxation to fund its expenditure, the question remains -- what then is the role of taxation? Once you have answered that question, then in my mind, the tax cuts starting 1964 have been one of the most corrupt acts since the establishment of this country (the USA).

                      This has been a legacy of the failure of the Vietnam War which started becoming apparent in 1964. We went off the silver standard and decreased tax rates in 1964 in order to pursue the Vietnam War.
                      Last edited by Rajiv; August 01, 2010, 03:51 PM. Reason: Changed year, and added additional commentary

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                        What happened to "deficits don't matter" ?
                        'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality.
                        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-...a_b_74538.html

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                          Originally posted by Rajiv View Post
                          Once it has been established that a sovereign government does not need taxation to fund its expenditure, the question remains -- what then is the role of taxation? Once you have answered that question, then in my mind, the tax cuts starting 1964 have been one of the most corrupt acts since the establishment of this country (the USA).

                          This has been a legacy of the failure of the Vietnam War which started becoming apparent in 1964. We went off the silver standard and decreased tax rates in 1964 in order to pursue the Vietnam War.
                          For quite some time we have been moving towards a society in the USA that can be characterized as "No representation without taxation". Once government can fund itself without taxation is also frees that same government from the need to listen and heed its citizens.

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                            Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                            For quite some time we have been moving towards a society in the USA that can be characterized as "No representation without taxation". Once government can fund itself without taxation is also frees that same government from the need to listen and heed its citizens.
                            Do you believe that the government can fund itself without taxation? I suppose this is true in the short-run or if you don't consider inflation a form of taxation.

                            It seems to me that the ability to tax is required to maintain confidence in the government's ability to repay debt. The government's only ability to repay its creditors is by pledging the current and future fruits of labor from its subjects/citizens.

                            Regardless, the government apparently feels already that there is no need to listen and heed its citizens. I certainly pay taxes now and don't feel as if I have any representation. If they stopped taxing me at least I'd have more gold and we could stop the pretense that they are working for me rather than against me.

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                              They guy is acting in his own self interest, what are you complaining about?

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