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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080102/...as/afghanistan

    By JASON STRAZIUSO, Associated Press Writer
    Wed Jan 2, 1:26 PM ET



    KABUL, Afghanistan - The U.S. general in charge of NATO's Afghanistan mission said Wednesday he expects another year of "explosive growth" in the country's poppy fields, a harvest militants will turn into weapons for use against Afghan and NATO troops.

    Gen. Dan McNeill said NATO commanders in Europe have told him to step up the counternarcotics fight this year, "and I will."

    "The money associated with poppy and opiate production continues to appear to be very good," McNeill told a news conference. "So without pressure or incentives or dissuasion to keep people from growing it, I expect the amount grown next year to increase."

    After a record haul in 2006, Afghan farmers increased opium production some 34 percent in 2007. Afghanistan last year produced 93 percent of the world's opium, the main ingredient in heroin. Its export value was estimated at $4 billion.

    McNeill, the commander of the 39-nation International Security Assistance Force, recalled being shown a photo of a man and his two boys — both under age 10 — scraping the resin out of poppies in western Afghanistan.

    "When I was the age of those boys I remember two things my father taught me: One was to fish ... to this day I am still a pretty good fisherman. He also taught me to use hand tools. To this day I can make a piece of furniture," he said. "If these two boys live as long as I do, ... what are they likely to do with the skills they learn at that age?"

    NATO's leaders in Brussels have made clear, McNeill said, that he is to use the current ISAF mandate to its fullest extent "to help the people of Afghanistan rid themselves of this scourge, and that will be our intent."

    He made clear that NATO will not be involved in eradication of poppies from the fields, but could bear down on drug growers and dealers connected to the insurgency.

    Links between drug growers and insurgents have been suspected to be growing in recent years. Proof of that was made clear when Afghan and NATO forces last month recaptured from militants the town of Musa Qala in Helmand province, the world's largest poppy-growing region.

    When Afghan and NATO forces moved into the town, they discovered dozens of heroin labs and stockpiles of drugs worth $500 million in street value, according to U.S. Ambassador William Wood.

    McNeill estimated that insurgents get 20 percent to 40 percent of their income from drugs, but he said some U.N. officials have told him the number could be as high as 60 percent.

    "So when I see a poppy field, I see it turning into money that turns into (weapons) that are used to kill Afghans and members of the International Security Assistance Force," he said.

    He said Afghanistan's record opium crop last year was due in part to the abundant rains Afghanistan received, and that the country expects more good rainfall in 2008.

    Concerning recent unrest in Pakistan, Afghanistan's eastern neighbor, McNeill said the Pakistan government acknowledges it has a problem with rising extremism and violence, particularly along the border, but "they're beginning to take it on," McNeill said.

    He said meetings between Pakistani and Afghan military chiefs have resulted in coordinated planning so that military missions on both sides of the border benefit. He said the Pakistani military has also adjusted its training, tactics and equipment to take on extremists.

    "I am optimistic that from a security perspective we will see some very good forward movement in what is typically considered the fighting season on both sides of the border this coming spring and summer," he said.
    Who said they were not ready for an economic down-turn. Go long booze, pills and all matter of crime.

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    Re: US general predicts record poppy haul (heroin)

    If Ron Paul is elected, short alcohol - MDMA is a far better alternative. and pot use could increase dramatically.

    Hell, even if barbiturates become available without a prescription, that's better than alcohol too (similar intoxication, less tissue damage)

    Go long any company making DUI equipment for non-alcoholic intoxicants.

    Originally posted by Sapiens View Post
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080102/...as/afghanistan

    Who said they were not ready for an economic down-turn. Go long booze, pills and all matter of crime.

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      Re: US general predicts record poppy haul (heroin)

      Afghanistan last year produced 93 percent of the world's opium, the main ingredient in heroin. Its export value was estimated at $4 billion.
      sorry, but doesn't this make us look really, very stupid? aren't we supposed to be on top of things there?

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        Re: US general predicts record poppy haul (heroin)

        Until the 1980s tribal farmers in the grew limited amounts of poppies to supply the heroin and opium trade in Iran and India. The CIA moved into the area to provide political and covert operations support to the mujahediin. By the end of the decade, Afghanistan and Pakistan were first and second in the world as sources of heroin. The Taliban eradicated most agricultural production of this commodity in 2001, before the US-NATO invasion. Despite this, the Taliban held enormous stockpiles of opium in reserve. Since the invasion, production of this lucrative commodity has been resurgent, and it is believed that parties on both sides of the conflict have benefited.

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          Re: US general predicts record poppy haul (heroin)

          the CIA wins another one for increasing the demand for war. i'm sure they supplied farmers with agri-tech and methods to increase yields too.

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            Re: US general predicts record poppy haul (heroin)

            Originally posted by Verrocchio View Post
            The Taliban eradicated most agricultural production of this commodity in 2001, before the US-NATO invasion. Despite this, the Taliban held enormous stockpiles of opium in reserve. Since the invasion, production of this lucrative commodity has been resurgent, and it is believed that parties on both sides of the conflict have benefited.
            This chart depicts acreage under cultivation for the magic poppy (source indicated is probably the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime).

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            • #7
              Re: US general predicts record poppy haul (heroin)

              Could this have been the real reason for attacking Afghanistan?

              See
              Narco-Dollars for Beginners
              "How the Money Works" in the Illicit Drug Trade


              very instructive reading (all of it is worth reading - below is only an excerpt)

              Look at your estimate of Sam and Dave's sales and profits. Now answer for yourself the following questions.
              • Who is going to get laid more, Sam or Dave?
              • Who is going to be more popular with the local bankers, Sam or Dave?
              • Who is going to have a bigger stock market portfolio with a large investment house, Sam or Dave?
              • Who is going to donate more money to political campaigns, Sam or Dave?
              • Whose wife is going to be bigger in the local charities, Sam or Dave's?
              • Whose companies will have more prestigous law firms on retainer, Sam or Dave's?
              • Who is going to buy the other's company first, Sam or Dave? Is Dave the drug man going to buy Sam the sugar man's company, or is Sam the sugar man going to buy Dave the drug man's company?
              • When they want to buy the other's company, will the bankers, lawyers and investment houses and politicians back Sam the sugar man or Dave the drug man?
              • Whose son or grandson has a better chance of getting into Harvard or getting a job offer at Goldman Sachs, Sam or Dave's?
              Don't listen to me. And don't listen to Peter Jennings, Dan Rather or Tom Brokaw. Who do you think pays their salaries? Who owns the companies they work for? Sam or Dave?

              There is very little about how the money works on the drug trade that you cannot know for yourself by coming to grips with the economics over a fifty year period of Sam and Dave and their boat loads of white agricultural substance. It is the magic of compound interest.


              As one of my former partners used to say, "Cash flow is more important than your mother."
              See also Chapter 3 of Fitts' book "Dillon Read & Co. Inc. And the Aristocracy of Stock Profits"

              After tours of duty in Dillon’s Corporate Finance and Energy Groups, I spent four years recapitalizing the New York City subway and bus systems on the way to becoming a managing director and member of the board of directors in 1986. I did not work on the RJR account. Odd bits of news would float back. They were always about the huge cash flows generated by the tobacco business and the necessity of finding ways to reinvest the gushing profits of this financial powerhouse.


              One of the young associates working for me teamed up with another young associate who worked on the RJR account to buy a sailboat in Europe. The second associate arranged to have the sailboat shipped to the U.S. through Sea-Land, an RJR subsidiary that provided container-shipping services globally. I was told RJR tore up the shipping bill as a courtesy. What kind of cash flows did a company have that could just tear up the shipping bill for an entire boat as a courtesy to a junior Dillon Read associate?


              I was to get a better sense of these cash flows many years later when I read the European Union’s explanation. The European Union has a pending lawsuit against RJR Nabisco on behalf of eleven sovereign nations of Europe who in combination have the formidable array of military and intelligence resources to collect and organize the evidence for such a lawsuit. The lawsuit alleges that RJR Nabisco was engaged in multiple long-lived criminal conspiracies.

              Excerpt From European Lawsuit Against RJR Nabisco


              If you like spy novels, you will find that the European Union’s presentation of fact to be far more fascinating than fiction. One of the complaints filed in the case describes a rich RJR history of business with Latin American drug cartels, Italian and Russian mafia, and Saddam Hussein’s family to name a few. The Introduction reads as follows:
              .
              .
              .
              (contd.)
              Along the same lines, also relevant is "The Crimes of Mena"

              Barry Seal - gunrunner, drug trafficker, and covert C.I.A. operative extraordinaire - is hardly a familiar name in American politics. But nine years after he was murdered in a hail of bullets by Medellin cartel hit men outside a Salvation Army shelter in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, he has come back to haunt the reputations of three American presidents.

              Seal's legacy includes more than 2,000 newly discovered documents that now verify and quantify much of what previously had been only suspicion, conjecture, and legend. The documents confirm that from 1981 to his brutal death in 1986, Barry Seal carried on one of the most lucrative, extensive, and brazen operations in the history of the international drug trade, and that he did it with the evident complicity, if not collusion, of elements of the United States government, apparently with the acquiescence of Ronald Reagan's administration, impunity from any subsequent exposure by George Bush's administration, and under the usually acute political nose of then Arkansas governor Bill Clinton.

              The newly unearthed papers show the real Seal as far more impressive and well-connected than the character played by Dennis Hopper in a made-for-TV movie some years ago, loosely based on the smuggler's life. The film portrayed the pudgy pilot as a hapless victim, caught in a cross fire between bungling but benign government agencies and Latin drug lords. The truth sprinkled through the documents is a richer - and altogether more sinister - matter of national and individual corruption. It is a tale of massive, socially devastating crime, of what seems to have been an official cover-up to match, and, not least, of the strange reluctance of so-called mainstream American journalism to come to grips with the phenomenon and its ominous implications - even when the documentary evidence had appeared.
              More on Mena

              "If the people were to ever find out what we have done, we would be chased down the streets and lynched."

              -- George Bush, cited in the June, 1992 Sarah McClendon Newsletter

              "I have put thousands of Americans away for tens of thousands of years for less evidence for conspiracy with less evidence than is available against Ollie North and CIA people. . . . I personally was involved in a deep-cover case that went to the top of the drug world in three countries. The CIA killed it."

              Former DEA Agent Michael Levine
              CNBC-TV, October 8, 1996

              This area of the website has been assembled in response to the persistent claims of a few individuals (well, just one, really) that Mena is a myth, that the CIA never ran cocaine through the Mena airport, or laundered the proceeds through various Arkansas financial institutions including Morgan Guarantee, Madison S&L, Worthen Bank, and most importantly, the Arkansas Development Finance Authority. That such activities took place at Mena (among other locations) should hardly be surprising, as a read through most newspapers shows that government connections to drug running are not only commonplace, they have become the inevitable symptom of these totally corrupted times.

              The hyper-links in this page connect, in most cases, to either published articles or congressional records related to the link subject. They are well worth following and although laborious to read (especially the congressional records), are well worth the effort. It is the hard evidence behind the allegations.
              Last edited by Rajiv; March 07, 2008, 07:06 PM. Reason: Added Dillon Read Chapter 3 reference and Mena, AK

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                Re: US general predicts record poppy haul (heroin)

                Originally posted by Verrocchio View Post
                This chart depicts acreage under cultivation for the magic poppy (source indicated is probably the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime).


                Have you all ever scoped the Afghanistan district level map in the UN reports?

                Data was not available from all of the districts for the widely heralded 2002 report, including from Ghor, which is now one of the most heavily cultivated districts.

                Did NATO kick the Taliban out of this area?

                The big cultivation area now includes part of Ghor, northern Helmand, eastern Farah and Uruzgan districts in the Central-Western part of the 'country'.

                Badakhshan district in the Northeast, near the Tajik border, has always been a big producer. I think this is where the so-called Northern Alliance operated out of. You never hear that phrase anymore.

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